Megadeth or Metallica?

Megadeth or Metallica

  • Megadeth

    Votes: 30 48.4%

  • Metallica

    Votes: 32 51.6%
  • Total voters
    62
DanTravis62 said:
HEY GUYS @valve IS YET ANOTHER VANILLA MAYONNAISE RT MEMBER WHO POSTS NO CLIPS, PLAYS NO GIGS, AND HAS NO CREATIVITY OR INSPIRATION BECAUSE HE HAS NO TASTE

let's give him a round of applause for being a basic bitch guitar hobbyist with nothing to contribute except the same opinions every other non-player character has :clap::clap::clap::clap:
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Are you my Tyler Durden? :ROFLMAO:
 
DanTravis62 said:
HEY GUYS @valve IS YET ANOTHER VANILLA MAYONNAISE RT MEMBER WHO POSTS NO CLIPS, PLAYS NO GIGS, AND HAS NO CREATIVITY OR INSPIRATION BECAUSE HE HAS NO TASTE

let's give him a round of applause for being a basic bitch guitar hobbyist with nothing to contribute except the same opinions every other non-player character has :clap::clap::clap::clap:
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I gigged before the lockdowns.
Listening to your clips, although it‘s mostly not my thing, your miles ahead of regarding technic. Well my taste changes over the years, but it‘s not really in my hands what I like. I really hate that music (iced earth, blind guardian, ... NOT your clips) you posted, although it my be „advanced“ from an technical aspect, I don‘t know, will never make it through a song…
 
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valve said:
I gigged before the lockdowns.
Listening to your clips, although it‘s mostly not my thing, your miles ahead of regarding technic. Well my taste changes over the years, but it‘s not really in my hands what I like. I really hate that music you posted, although it my be „advanced“ from an technical aspect, I don‘t know, will never make it through a song…
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Why do you think that is? That im miles ahead of you "regarding technic"?

It's because I listen to a wide range and depth of music and have knowledge of music.

This drives me nuts with guitar players that have only ever been into surface level music.

Yeah no shit you aren't that advanced. You listen to "metal" and think of the entire genre of power metal as "high pitched 80s shit" because you know fucking NOTHING about metal.

Even if you don't like it - fine. Anyone who knew literally anything about metal would be like "yeah I'm not super into power metal" but would know it didn't happen until well after the 80s.

Is this normal? Like guitar players that don't know fucking anything about music?
 
Metallica makes more catchy quality soulful metal . Megadeth is the more robotic and technical and tight band . That in my mind says everting about why Dave didn’t fit in it really . But I love both equally be because of it too
 
DanTravis62 said:
Why do you think that is? That im miles ahead of you "regarding technic"?

It's because I listen to a wide range and depth of music and have knowledge of music.

This drives me nuts with guitar players that have only ever been into surface level music.

Yeah no shit you aren't that advanced. You listen to "metal" and think of the entire genre of power metal as "high pitched 80s shit" because you know fucking NOTHING about metal.

Even if you don't like it - fine. Anyone who knew literally anything about metal would be like "yeah I'm not super into power metal" but would know it didn't happen until well after the 80s.

Is this normal? Like guitar players that don't know fucking anything about music?
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yes it is the norm.
you got to give me a break, i started with grunge :D (don't like most of it anymore)

i know that stuff isn't from the 80s. but it's like they picked up that stuff i didn't like from that period and quadrupled it and took it to another level.

it's not only the high pitch voices. i also don't like to listen to the super fast stuff in an electrical guitar context (except for leads) (although i like it a bit from a guitarist perspective).
on the accoustic guitar i do like the technical advanced stuff somehow!
killer stuff in this thread:
SpiderWars

Thread 'Post some non-metal/non-shred shred'

This performance just goes deeper and deeper into a gypsy rabbit hole. But the first two songs are shredtastic.



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why that is: you clips are killer tight (it's not that i never practice with a metronome, but i like to avoid it, <-lazy), and i don't record to often. but when i do, i hear the f***'in looseness of my playing. so i am working on that, but now i got a tenovaginitis again.

As a kid of the 90s i guess i am somehow rotten, but i like vanilla, yes! very much!
i try to expand my musical range. it doesn't have to be metal at all.. always searching for new music. It's not easy to find something i really like. the time invested and the returns: doesn't add up most of the time.
somehow big commercial success correlates with musical taste (at least for the genres i like). so yes i am more mainstream than i like to admit.

the last band, really worth investing the time was Gov't mule, but it's not like Warren Haynes playing really pushes me to another level.
 
valve said:
yes it is the norm.
you got to give me a break, i started with grunge :D (don't like most of it anymore)

i know that stuff isn't from the 80s. but it's like they picked up that stuff i didn't like from that period and quadrupled it and took it to another level.

it's not only the high pitch voices. i also don't like to listen to the super fast stuff in an electrical guitar context (except for leads) (although i like it a bit from a guitarist perspective).
on the accoustic guitar i do like the technical advanced stuff somehow!
killer stuff in this thread:
SpiderWars

Thread 'Post some non-metal/non-shred shred'

This performance just goes deeper and deeper into a gypsy rabbit hole. But the first two songs are shredtastic.



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why that is: you clips are killer tight (it's not that i never practice with a metronome, but i like to avoid it, <-lazy), and i don't record to often. but when i do, i hear the f***'in looseness of my playing. so i am working on that, but now i got a tenovaginitis again.

As a kid of the 90s i guess i am somehow rotten, but i like vanilla, yes! very much!
i try to expand my musical range. it doesn't have to be metal at all.. always searching for new music. It's not easy to find something i really like. the time invested and the returns: doesn't add up most of the time.
somehow big commercial success correlates with musical taste (at least for the genres i like). so yes i am more mainstream than i like to admit.
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It's not really about that genre specifically, it's that you need to expand your listening habits (and therefore playing habits) to expand your guitar playing. Lots and lots of dudes (especially since covid, where lots of people joined in on the whole guitar thing) only listen to surface level music, and therefore only have a surface level understanding of guitar as a whole, because you can't improve your abilities if you don't even know the possibilities that are out there. It's the same reason why people get annoyed with EVH/Brown sound threads - it's basic bitch shit that got played out 15 years ago when the internet was still young, and all the people who actually play guitar already had all these conversations years ago.

Honestly you don't even have to get that much underground if your tastes don't go that way, but what you have to do is get in depth with the music that you do like. Like, you can't just "learn a riff;" you have to learn how the rhythm of that riff synergizes with every other instrument to create the effect that the riff creates in the song. More technical music forces you to work on this, but you can do it even with 90s yardeling Pearl Jam bullshit.

If you want to get your playing tighter, it's not just practice - you have to surround yourself with music that inspires you on an intrinsic level - like enough to where you want to DO that and create music like that. And if all you're listening to is "whats on the radio," all you're going to play is that same shit. So no matter how much you practice, your music isn't going to amount to anything because it's going to sound like "blah that was popular 10 years ago" to everyone who hears it.

It's not just about technical skill, it's about developing style. And to develop style (even the styles that become the mainstream) you have to develop taste and understanding.
 
DanTravis62 said:
It's not really about that genre specifically, it's that you need to expand your listening habits (and therefore playing habits) to expand your guitar playing. Lots and lots of dudes (especially since covid, where lots of people joined in on the whole guitar thing) only listen to surface level music, and therefore only have a surface level understanding of guitar as a whole, because you can't improve your abilities if you don't even know the possibilities that are out there. It's the same reason why people get annoyed with EVH/Brown sound threads - it's basic bitch shit that got played out 15 years ago when the internet was still young, and all the people who actually play guitar already had all these conversations years ago.

Honestly you don't even have to get that much underground if your tastes don't go that way, but what you have to do is get in depth with the music that you do like. Like, you can't just "learn a riff;" you have to learn how the rhythm of that riff synergizes with every other instrument to create the effect that the riff creates in the song. More technical music forces you to work on this, but you can do it even with 90s yardeling Pearl Jam bullshit.

If you want to get your playing tighter, it's not just practice - you have to surround yourself with music that inspires you on an intrinsic level - like enough to where you want to DO that and create music like that. And if all you're listening to is "whats on the radio," all you're going to play is that same shit. So no matter how much you practice, your music isn't going to amount to anything because it's going to sound like "blah that was popular 10 years ago" to everyone who hears it.

It's not just about technical skill, it's about developing style. And to develop style (even the styles that become the mainstream) you have to develop taste and understanding.
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Is this turning into an actual conversation or are we just detailing the thread? (If the first one then am actually glad I pissed on you for posting powermetal (as I have learned) in a trash metal thread)
I am not that covid dude I can assure you.
I was more in “alternative Media” in that time.

It’s lame at work lately, that’s why I hang here so much.

I play since I am 12. there are phase where I pushed my playing, and where I just noodle the same old until I got so bored and upped my game In the end eventually. So in never stopped playing but I am nowhere the level I could have been I‘ve my income would depend on it.
This taste&style/imprint is actually the thing that hinders me to explore new stuff easily I’d say. But I am all about original riffs (was 2 per month, no I am down to 4 a year because of the family life???).
What improved might be my improv. If I have a good day, I am actually good at it, and I can more or less play the stuff that pops into my head and not so much the stuff in my hands.
But I don’t think I am good enough to not sound like the 90s, which of course had the biggest impact on me (my teen years)
 
valve said:
Is this turning into an actual conversation or are we just detailing the thread? (If the first one then am actually glad I pissed on you for posting powermetal (as I have learned) in a trash metal thread)
I am not that covid dude I can assure you.
I was more in “alternative Media” in that time.

It’s lame at work lately, that’s why I hang here so much.

I play since I am 12. there are phase where I pushed my playing, and where I just noodle the same old until I got so bored and upped my game In the end eventually. So in never stopped playing but I am nowhere the level I could have been I‘ve my income would depend on it.
This taste&style/imprint is actually the thing that hinders me to explore new stuff easily I’d say. But I am all about original riffs (was 2 per month, no I am down to 4 a year because of the family life???).
What improved might be my improv. If I have a good day, I am actually good at it, and I can more or less play the stuff that pops into my head and not so much the stuff in my hands.
But I don’t think I am good enough to not sound like the 90s, which of course had the biggest impact on me (my teen years)
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Oh no, it's an actual conversation - I am telling you though, if you want to improve, you're going to have to dig deeper with the music you listen to
 
DanTravis62 said:
Oh no, it's an actual conversation - I am telling you though, if you want to improve, you're going to have to dig deeper with the music you listen to
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i worked out songs before. it's work. so there has to be some special occasion/pressure i do it...
 
midnightlaundry said:
I remember being underwhelmed when the Black Album came out.. But they toured that Record for years which eventually got Metal on the Radio which was a 1st. In hindsight, they wrote less Epics which gave them a wider appeal that really worked out as they now tour Stadiums. I haven't bought a Metallica Record since Black..

But at that time Rust In Peace came out and set the Bar to the Next Level! Then they followed it up with Countdown To Extinction which was even better.
Marty Friedman defined the Metal Lead Guitar Player Archetype that all others have tried to equal since..
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100% this.

Although, I listened to RTL and MOP back to back while cutting the grass last Friday. I really dig those two albums. Outside of that, I start to loose interest. Listened to Megadeth's Hidden Treasures on my way home yesterday. Good shit. Angry Again is such a fun song :D

@War_in_D - Train of Consequences is such a cool song :yes:
 
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When I was younger Metallica by a mile. I didn't really listen to Megadeth. When I got older the answer is both. Megadeth for better overall muscianship, interesting often techincal songs and pheonomenal lead work. Metallica for overall song writing.
 
I give a slight edge to Metallica, but that's largely based on their output prior to the Black album. By and large, Megadeth have had the more interesting music in the last few decades, and a large part of that is probably because Mustaine is still so toxic.
 
valve said:
yes it is the norm.
you got to give me a break, i started with grunge :D (don't like most of it anymore)

i know that stuff isn't from the 80s. but it's like they picked up that stuff i didn't like from that period and quadrupled it and took it to another level.

it's not only the high pitch voices. i also don't like to listen to the super fast stuff in an electrical guitar context (except for leads) (although i like it a bit from a guitarist perspective).
on the accoustic guitar i do like the technical advanced stuff somehow!
killer stuff in this thread:
SpiderWars

Thread 'Post some non-metal/non-shred shred'

This performance just goes deeper and deeper into a gypsy rabbit hole. But the first two songs are shredtastic.



IBRC (In Before Roy Clark)
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why that is: you clips are killer tight (it's not that i never practice with a metronome, but i like to avoid it, <-lazy), and i don't record to often. but when i do, i hear the f***'in looseness of my playing. so i am working on that, but now i got a tenovaginitis again.

As a kid of the 90s i guess i am somehow rotten, but i like vanilla, yes! very much!
i try to expand my musical range. it doesn't have to be metal at all.. always searching for new music. It's not easy to find something i really like. the time invested and the returns: doesn't add up most of the time.
somehow big commercial success correlates with musical taste (at least for the genres i like). so yes i am more mainstream than i like to admit.

the last band, really worth investing the time was Gov't mule, but it's not like Warren Haynes playing really pushes me to another level.
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I'll be honest and say as a guitarist I'll take Kim Thayil over Dave Mustaine all day every day. Mustaine may be fast, but he's nowhere near as inventive and unique.
 
Metallica for more pop-oriented, catchy songs (prior to and including the Black Album, hard skip after that). Megadeth for the more interesting (for a guitar player) songs.
 
Damn it....what is wrong with people. Megadeth or Metallica means one or the other......You cant just suggest others or "neither".

And you cant just import others....like wtf!!!

F sake...choose bitches!!
 
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