ONE amp and done and out thread!!

[steve_k]

Steve...that lineup sounds fun!! I will just take the Fortin, Cameron, and Cornford and then I'll be good Honestly tho, The Cameron CCV and Cornford are still very much on my mind.. I may have put the VH4 out of the running..hmmm.. Been emailing some good players and good ears and the CCV's and Cornfords keep coming up..must be a reason

As far as the members above post about me and Andy Timmons and Im going the wrong route in search of an amp.. AT is an idol of mine.. Im not trying to sound like him, I just jam on his stuff when I get some time to just noodle.. I can dial back my volume/tone knobs with about any amp, throw a bb preamp on it with some delay and be close enuf to suit me.. Or just push a clean channel a bit and be in the same area. Andy's tone is in his soul.. No one sounds like him.. Im not trying to..he's just one of my big influences. Cheerz and thanx for your input...It probably won't be a JVM for me.

I always spin the amps in terms of live tone and playing live, without OD pedals and can I get where I want to be with it. I have flipped a lot of amps that sound great and can be tweaked endlessly to end up near a tone you are after. But, I generally go for something that will sound like I want with one set of settings.

As far as the CCV vs. Corndog, the CCV is going to be a tighter amp even when dialing up with ass loads of gain. The Cornford will run a little more saturated and slightly more compressed. It is more traditional British in voicing than the CCV. 2 loops, free running or channel assigned and the 2nd master and no switching issues make it a kick ass amp, especially for a 50 watt. You also have a channel gain/volume and both masters. So, you can really play with the drive of the amp for some nice harmonics and sweet as overdrive. The CCV is more in your face and edgy than the Corndog.

 

[suhrimmetal]

They both sound like killer amps and Im sure they are. I don't like running pedals (except a slight delay for leads) so I want the amp to sing for itself.. I don't want an amp that needs to be pushed with an od pedal in order to 'get there'. The internal added gain/overdrive features of the amp needs to suffice otherwise it's not gonna be enuf for me. Most the clips of the MK I've heard are very rock fusion/blues based and sound great and tonally VERY pleasing.. Can the amp get raunchy and thick?? I know the Cameron can..so they say .. Im not looking for an amp that records well(tho its great if it does)... I play live, that's where it's at for me, and I want the amp to excel at just that.. being a beautiful, 'here I am' monster Live.

 

[steve_k]

They both sound like killer amps and Im sure they are. I don't like running pedals (except a slight delay for leads) so I want the amp to sing for itself.. I don't want an amp that needs to be pushed with an od pedal in order to 'get there'. The internal added gain/overdrive features of the amp needs to suffice otherwise it's not gonna be enuf for me. Most the clips of the MK I've heard are very rock fusion/blues based and sound great and tonally VERY pleasing.. Can the amp get raunchy and thick?? I know the Cameron can..so they say .. Im not looking for an amp that records well(tho its great if it does)... I play live, that's where it's at for me, and I want the amp to excel at just that.. being a beautiful, 'here I am' monster Live.

While some may disagree, the CCV's gain structure is based more around the clipping circuits, as opposed to pure tube gain. Actually, it doesn't make massive amounts of tube gain. If you run G1/G2 up the middle with the Ch2 master in the middle, it probably won't get where you want it to be. It supplies an ass load of plate voltage to the power tubes and to really get the CCV cooking you have to find the trade off with the clipping, whether on the gains or on the master. The Corndog, on the other hand, is more traditional in its gain structure and tube gain, but with the OD boost and second master you can go from mild to wild in a stomp on the foot pedal. Just depends on what you are after. You wouldn't go wrong with either.

 

[suhrimmetal]

Steve...now redo that entire amp shootout on the Q3!! At least the 1st 3 amps.. I know you have nothing better to do .... Actually love to see you do a 'creeping deathish' clip, maybe a panama-ish or skid row-ish clip (want to see how the amps handle full chords), and some clean noodling.. cover a wider spectrum to see how the amps handle it. I'll let you go so you can set everything up.. Cheerz

 

[jcj]

Steve...now redo that entire amp shootout on the Q3!! At least the 1st 3 amps.. I know you have nothing better to do .... Actually love to see you do a 'creeping deathish' clip, maybe a panama-ish or skid row-ish clip (want to see how the amps handle full chords), and some clean noodling.. cover a wider spectrum to see how the amps handle it. I'll let you go so you can set everything up.. Cheerz

I can do the chord thing for you later with the Cornford and CCV

 

[suhrimmetal]

That would be awesome Josh!!! Do whatever you can and run those amps thru your fingers...full chords, some palm muted single note riffies, lead work, even a bit of clean noodling. Looking forward to hearing it..big time...be the closest thing to me playing them myself and will/may help me in my decisions thanx bro

Cory

 

[killertone]

Shit, if we re throwing Fortins in there I gotta go with a 2 channel Cali as well. Hard to beat.

 

[pstar]

fortin is cool in the heavy dept., but he is not taking any orders.

 

[steve_k]

Steve...now redo that entire amp shootout on the Q3!! At least the 1st 3 amps.. I know you have nothing better to do .... Actually love to see you do a 'creeping deathish' clip, maybe a panama-ish or skid row-ish clip (want to see how the amps handle full chords), and some clean noodling.. cover a wider spectrum to see how the amps handle it. I'll let you go so you can set everything up.. Cheerz

Let Josh throw you some clips up. He's got both the amps as well. We are leaving for Thailand in the morning (my morning over here). Got a list of honey-do's right now!

Steve

 

[pstar]

stevie , got those list everyday, hahahah, i seem to miss place the lists all the time, lol, but the wifey remember s every item on that list even 2 years afterwards, lol.

 

[jcj]

Steve...now redo that entire amp shootout on the Q3!! At least the 1st 3 amps.. I know you have nothing better to do .... Actually love to see you do a 'creeping deathish' clip, maybe a panama-ish or skid row-ish clip (want to see how the amps handle full chords), and some clean noodling.. cover a wider spectrum to see how the amps handle it. I'll let you go so you can set everything up.. Cheerz

Let Josh throw you some clips up. He's got both the amps as well. We are leaving for Thailand in the morning (my morning over here). Got a list of honey-do's right now!

Steve

Stay away from the Lady Boys

 

[suhrimmetal]

Nice Josh..

Safe Travels Steve

 

[suhrimmetal]

Coors light time Cheerz friendz

 

[Jordon]

Been talking with Kyle quite a bit as of late. Such a good guy and knows his shit!! Im basically(without getting into specific tone qualities) looking for a channel switcher with a good clean, a pushed plexi into hot rodded marshall with room for a slightly more compressed/saturated voice, with an extra gain/ch for leads.

Right now Im leaning towards the Rhodes Colossus with the Cornford MK50II/VH4/New PT100 closely behind. I think Kyle is gonna be around for a long time and deserves to be mentioned in the same breath as the Fortins, Friedmans, Diezels, Bogners, etc.. For all you rackmounted fans.. Check out the upcoming Artemis!! Looks killer and should be an amazing piece of gear.. rhodesamplification.com

Now, back to the battle in my head......

One more reiterated vote for the VH4. Spent another 6 hours with mine last night building up and programming the new rig....Oh yes.

 

[suhrimmetal]

My Thursday lineup....

Cornford MK50II/Cameron CCV/Rhodes Colossus/Fortin 2ch....... One of those will most likely be my choice

 

[LP Freak]

My Thursday lineup....

Cornford MK50II/Cameron CCV/Rhodes Colossus/Fortin 2ch....... One of those will most likely be my choice

What's the Fortin 2 channel?

 

[Diplodomare]

I'm there with you brother!!!! My trek had ended at a Rhodes Colossus. It delivers exactly what you describe. I have bought and sold nearly every amp you can think of. It has a sick clean and the leads just sing. Any gain level sounds "right". It can get tight or phat but never thin or ice picky....

DM

 

[suhrimmetal]

Yeah..Im hoping to demo the Colossus here in the next few weeks or shortly after Namm if things work out.

Looking forward to hearing Josh's head to head comparison of the CCV and MK50II...

 

[suhrimmetal]

My Friday "im a gearaholic' bump

 

[TIBrent]

I'm very suprised so many of you are suggesting the vh4...I had one & really couldn't stand it. All the other guys in my band felt pretty much the same as well. It is all bells & whistles, 28 billion nobs that do basically what 1 or 2 well thought through knobs will do. The tone to me just sounded like everything else out there I heard, it blended too well with surrounding sounds & in all honesty, channel 4 was awful, loud & buzzy. For my buck I would recommend either the new pt100 or the cameron for what you are describing. I'm telling you, if you are anything like me & reading by what styles & gear you play, you are, you'll get that Diezel, drop a ton & in another few months be saying to yourself, "Damn...now I've gotta resell this & amp & the re-sale value sucks". Just my opinion. I'd probably go more towards the cameron too
-Brent