What do you guys think of this tone?

[AmpliFIRE]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

I put tung sol EL 34Bs in there because I'm using greenbacks....

what's a weird mid? I see this term alot but I still don't understand what makes a mid weird or not weird..lol....

another thing to keep in mind..it's a splawn..not a marshall...it's scott's voicing based on a hot rodded marshall, but it's not a marshall...so yeah, it's gonna sound different...

You know what...? I didn't know what a weird mid was until I got my QR lol. It had this certain honky tone to it.

LOL! Well see? That's just weird! I added the OD808 to ADD HONKINESS! I heard it as being too precise. I wanted hairier mids!

Yeah...that's prob why I'm not a huge fan of the 808 and I absolutely hated the SD-9. The OD-9 is cool though.

Give me an SD-1 over an OD-9, SD-9 and 808 any day of the week

 

[shreder75]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

I put tung sol EL 34Bs in there because I'm using greenbacks....

what's a weird mid? I see this term alot but I still don't understand what makes a mid weird or not weird..lol....

another thing to keep in mind..it's a splawn..not a marshall...it's scott's voicing based on a hot rodded marshall, but it's not a marshall...so yeah, it's gonna sound different...

You know what...? I didn't know what a weird mid was until I got my QR lol. It had this certain honky tone to it.

LOL! Well see? That's just weird! I added the OD808 to ADD HONKINESS! I heard it as being too precise. I wanted hairier mids!

Yeah...that's prob why I'm not a huge fan of the 808 and I absolutely hated the SD-9. The OD-9 is cool though.

Give me an SD-1 over an OD-9, SD-9 and 808 any day of the week

yeah, I had an OD 9 for a while too and didn't like how it affected the amp at all...

 

[Vrad]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

 

[Meathead]

Let's start a poll...who thinks Vlad has weird mids?

 

[Vrad]

Let's start a poll...who thinks Vlad has weird mids?

Dude I have weird EVERYTHING! LOL!

 

[shreder75]

I don't know about weird mids
weird odor though? For sure.

 

[Meathead]

Let's start a poll...who thinks Vlad has weird mids?

Dude I have weird EVERYTHING! LOL!

ole crazy legs!

Still doing the fitness thing?
I'm starting again...winter hibernation is over...time to shed some love handles.

BTW, I like the aggressiveness of that guitar...it's definitely your 80's rock guitar, I wouldn't change it.

 

[Chubtone]

ahhhh chubtone...your ears never lie to you do they? lol

.

Yeah... Chub's ears kill me! LOL!
How did he pick that out?

Seriously, I was going to guess Quick Rod on OD1 with a boost. No joke. I figured that would just be showing off though.

I don't like TS style pedals with the Quick Rod. The Quick Rod is very thick in the mids and can be a little congested in the mids as sah5150 heard if it isn't up a little volume wise. I run mine at 10:00 in my house and that is PUMPING. The problem with the TS style overdrives is that they have that mid hump on an amp that doesn't need it and they congest the mids in an attempt to warm up amps that need it. The QR doesn't need it. The TS does tighten up the lows and give you more liquidy feeling for the hands

I have found that an old made in Japan Boss SD-1 is the best with the Quick Rod. It still tightens up the lows and gives you more liquidy feelings in the fingers but actually does something complimentary to the mids on the Quick Rod in terms of clarity.

 

[Anonymous]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

 

[Vrad]

Let's start a poll...who thinks Vlad has weird mids?

Dude I have weird EVERYTHING! LOL!

ole crazy legs!

Still doing the fitness thing?
I'm starting again...winter hibernation is over...time to shed some love handles.

BTW, I like the aggressiveness of that guitar...it's definitely your 80's rock guitar, I wouldn't change it.

I took a little break. I'm going to start it up again in a couple weeks. Kept my diet consistent though.

Yeah... It's a total 80's rock guitar man! Purple sparkle. Maple board. Floyd. JB. YEAH! LOL!

 

[Vrad]

ahhhh chubtone...your ears never lie to you do they? lol

.

Yeah... Chub's ears kill me! LOL!
How did he pick that out?

Seriously, I was going to guess Quick Rod on OD1 with a boost. No joke. I figured that would just be showing off though.

I don't like TS style pedals with the Quick Rod. The Quick Rod is very thick in the mids and can be a little congested in the mids as sah5150 heard if it isn't up a little volume wise. I run mine at 10:00 in my house and that is PUMPING. The problem with the TS style overdrives is that they have that mid hump on an amp that doesn't need it and they congest the mids in an attempt to warm up amps that need it. The QR doesn't need it. The TS does tighten up the lows and give you more liquidy feeling for the hands

I have found that an old made in Japan Boss SD-1 is the best with the Quick Rod. It still tightens up the lows and gives you more liquidy feelings in the fingers but actually does something complimentary to the mids on the Quick Rod in terms of clarity.

Hmm... I have an SD-1 laying around... I may plug it in tonight.. see how that goes... What you said makes perfect sense.

 

[Vrad]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

I think I know what you're saying. Which, is different than what some of the other guys were saying about the mids. And honestly, that's what I'm looking for! An explanation.. not just "Weird Mids" which means nothing to me. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain what you were hearing. I know folks don't feel like doing it or they can't, they're at work or whatever but when I see stuff like that, I simply discount it as the tone not translating to THEIR particular listening enviorment or they're just criticising because they feel they should... let's face it, Splawns have a weird dynamic on this board which I think factors into the equation sometimes So in short, thanks for describing it to me because I tend to think that my monitors are subpar and thus I'm missing something.

 

[Gainfreak]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

I think I know what you're saying. Which, is different than what some of the other guys were saying about the mids. And honestly, that's what I'm looking for! An explanation.. not just "Weird Mids" which means nothing to me. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain what you were hearing. I know folks don't feel like doing it or they can't, they're at work or whatever but when I see stuff like that, I simply discount it as the tone not translating to THEIR particular listening enviorment or they're just criticising because they feel they should... let's face it, Splawns have a weird dynamic on this board which I think factors into the equation sometimes So in short, thanks for describing it to me because I tend to think that my monitors are subpar and thus I'm missing something.

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean. To rag on the amp just for the sake of ragging on it aint my speed but I could have explained it better. Ive also talked to a couple of people who I respect who know amps inside and out and they agree with me that Scott picked a unique midrange freequency. That's the best I can describe it and there was no malace in what I said. Do I dig splawns? No, I don't...Does he make a great product ....Shit yeah he does.

all the best

Ralph

 

[Gainfreak]

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean. To rag on the amp just for the sake of ragging on it aint my speed but I could have explained it better. Ive also talked to a couple of people who I respect who know amps inside and out and they agree with me that Scott picked a unique midrange freequency. That's the best I can describe it and there was no malace in what I said. Do I dig splawns? No, I don't...Does he make a great product ....Shit yeah he does.

all the best

Ralph

And also with you....

We lift up our hearts

 

[Vrad]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

I think I know what you're saying. Which, is different than what some of the other guys were saying about the mids. And honestly, that's what I'm looking for! An explanation.. not just "Weird Mids" which means nothing to me. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain what you were hearing. I know folks don't feel like doing it or they can't, they're at work or whatever but when I see stuff like that, I simply discount it as the tone not translating to THEIR particular listening enviorment or they're just criticising because they feel they should... let's face it, Splawns have a weird dynamic on this board which I think factors into the equation sometimes So in short, thanks for describing it to me because I tend to think that my monitors are subpar and thus I'm missing something.

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean. To rag on the amp just for the sake of ragging on it aint my speed but I could have explained it better. Ive also talked to a couple of people who I respect who know amps inside and out and they agree with me that Scott picked a unique midrange freequency. That's the best I can describe it and there was no malace in what I said. Do I dig splawns? No, I don't...Does he make a great product ....Shit yeah he does.

all the best

Ralph

Fair enough... I hear that amp 1st gear, cranked up and it's a 2203 to my ears! LOL!

 

[Gainfreak]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

I think I know what you're saying. Which, is different than what some of the other guys were saying about the mids. And honestly, that's what I'm looking for! An explanation.. not just "Weird Mids" which means nothing to me. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain what you were hearing. I know folks don't feel like doing it or they can't, they're at work or whatever but when I see stuff like that, I simply discount it as the tone not translating to THEIR particular listening enviorment or they're just criticising because they feel they should... let's face it, Splawns have a weird dynamic on this board which I think factors into the equation sometimes So in short, thanks for describing it to me because I tend to think that my monitors are subpar and thus I'm missing something.

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean. To rag on the amp just for the sake of ragging on it aint my speed but I could have explained it better. Ive also talked to a couple of people who I respect who know amps inside and out and they agree with me that Scott picked a unique midrange freequency. That's the best I can describe it and there was no malace in what I said. Do I dig splawns? No, I don't...Does he make a great product ....Shit yeah he does.

all the best

Ralph

Fair enough... I hear that amp 1st gear, cranked up and it's a 2203 to my ears! LOL!

I only replied because I didn't want you thinking I was ragging on the tone just for the sake of it!!! Maybe I'll have to revisit the Splawns

 

[Gitfiddler]

every time someone brings up splawn, somebody has to mention rocky marciano. rocky marciano, rocky marciano, rocky marciano. he kicked joe louis' ass

 

[Vrad]

Honestly sounds a bit weird in the mids (like inorganic if you know what I mean) and muffled like something was between the mic and the speaker to me. Not my favorite tone from you, but I dig that last lick!

Steve

It's funny you say that, because that was the only thing I didn't dig about the QR that I had. Some days the mids sounded weird to me. The amp definitely sounded better once I replaced the Mullard RI EL34's with =C= EL34's, but that mid thing still came back from time to time...just not as bad. I actually called DerekB the day after i got the amp to say that I was going to return it because of this. I decided to change the power tubes instead and it made a HUGE difference.

those mids are why you can bury everybody else in a band situation though I know this from experience..eheh

Didn't you change your Mullards as well? I've owned plenty of Marshall's (both stock and moded) and the QR was the only one that had weird thing in the mids. It's not about not having enough mids...I crank them on all of my amps...it's about the tone of them.

The Quickrod does have a weird midrange freequency plain and simple. There is no getting around it. Scott picked a particular midrange that is not the norm on most Marshally type amps and that's what you, me and many others are hearing IMHO but.....

Im willing to bet that because we have been hearing a particular freequency for many years, our ears are always looking for that, so in essence I give Scott props for picking something unique.

With that said, I actually like the Splawns when they are pushed by an 808. I think the 808 adds back some of what Im looking for.

Just my 0.02

I still don't get it =)

If you understood everyone's opinion you would be filthy rich and would run Dr Phil right out of Hollywood.

It's like this, in another thread you stated that the JVM was worth $800 to you and everyone respected your opinion.....nobody refuted it or offered a rebutal since it is your opinion. Now some have an opinion that they have issues with Scott's voicing but your having issues understanding this. Not sure how else to put this.

LOL!
Scott, he's asking for people to describe what's weird about it, because alot of people, myself included DON'T hear it. They're also not hearing it in this clip. I personally would like to have it described so I can look for it.

Ok. So here is my attempt at explaining it. The mids sound like they are pushed back and muffled. Like some of the higher mid frequencies are missing that make the mids more present and in your face. Hence my comment about something being between the speaker and the mic. I can hear that there is plenty of top end, but overall the mids are muffled and not present enough for the tones I like. To me this is not the amp or guitar, it is how it was recorded. My feeling is that this probably sounded awesome in the room, but it didn't translate to the recording to me. Once again, this is my opinion...

Look, we all hear things differently. That's what makes the world so interesting. Most seem to think this sounds awesome, so rock on I say!

Steve

I think I know what you're saying. Which, is different than what some of the other guys were saying about the mids. And honestly, that's what I'm looking for! An explanation.. not just "Weird Mids" which means nothing to me. I appreciate the fact that you took the time to explain what you were hearing. I know folks don't feel like doing it or they can't, they're at work or whatever but when I see stuff like that, I simply discount it as the tone not translating to THEIR particular listening enviorment or they're just criticising because they feel they should... let's face it, Splawns have a weird dynamic on this board which I think factors into the equation sometimes So in short, thanks for describing it to me because I tend to think that my monitors are subpar and thus I'm missing something.

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean. To rag on the amp just for the sake of ragging on it aint my speed but I could have explained it better. Ive also talked to a couple of people who I respect who know amps inside and out and they agree with me that Scott picked a unique midrange freequency. That's the best I can describe it and there was no malace in what I said. Do I dig splawns? No, I don't...Does he make a great product ....Shit yeah he does.

all the best

Ralph

Fair enough... I hear that amp 1st gear, cranked up and it's a 2203 to my ears! LOL!

I only replied because I didn't want you thinking I was ragging on the tone just for the sake of it!!! Maybe I'll have to revisit the Splawns

And I appreciate it man...

 

[Shiny_Surface]

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean.

Ralph

I agree, I've never heard a mid frequency quite like the QR. I can definitely see how some wouldn't dig it.

 

[Chubtone]

Well I can't speak for everyone but what I mean by weird mids is that a regular marshall has a a specific midrnage cut I think but Im not 100% sure but I think its in the 650 regio... or somewhere in that region. When I hear and play the splawns the midrange is different to my ears. It doesn't have the same sound to my ears and that's what I mean.

Ralph

I agree, I've never heard a mid frequency quite like the QR. I can definitely see how some wouldn't dig it.

I will agree that if you dial this amp in visually to look the same as when you dial in a Marshall, it may sound different than you would expect. I have a recording project that I am doing. I have Splawn tracks on the left or the right. They're next to or opposed in stereo from Marshall JCM800's, vintage Super Leads and my Mojave Peacemaker. Some tracks have an Orange Tiny Terror on them too. The Splawn in no way sounds "weird" next to Marshalls. As a matter of fact, if I didn't label the tracks, I would forget what I used sometimes. I dial in the Splawn to sound right. The same thing I do with my Marshalls. I use RADICALY different knob positioning to get there.

Some complain of the "stiffness" in the Quick Rod when it comes to soloing. I know what they are talking about. But I come from playing plexi's where you are fighting AGAINST the amp to solo. You ever try and solo on a JCM800 with no boost? It's freaking terrible. But boost a JCM800 or crank and attenuate and even boost a Super Lead and you have a different animal. I boost my Quick Rod too. It is not "stiff" at all with a boost. It kills.