Yet another Axe-fx Thread .....

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As some of you may or may not know, Cliff from Fractal audio had offered to send Kage and I an Axe-fx unit to try out in person after he read a thread that I had posted on Rig-talk, so I took off of work on Friday and I met up with Kage in NYC and then we both walked to Harry Kolbe’s studio where we met up with Tom from Fractal audio.
First off before I even get into a mini review of the unit I have got to say that Tom is one of the nicest guys to deal with and he is also a great player! I think that cliff should be extremely happy that he has a guy like Tom working for him because Tom is one of the coolest guys on the planet and he is very down to earth. I can also add that Cliff is an amazing person in his own rite for even considering doing this and he is also a great guy to deal with as well.
Now for a mini review and I will keep this brief because I will post a full review after I have had more time with the unit. I won’t have time to play around with this thing until Monday because I have been doing the Girlfriend duties this weekend lol!
Ok back on track!! Within minutes of meeting Tom both Kage and I were greeted with a warm welcome. We chatted for a bit and then went into a room where the axe-fx was setup through a tube power-amp and a 4x12 cab loaded with v-30’s. Within minutes of hearing this thing it had already smoked what I heard at the NY amp show. I had always suspected that this thing would sound killer through a power amp and I was MORE then surprised by the end result. Tom took us through the basics of the unit and what I immediately loved is that you don’t have to be a rocket scientist to program the thing!. It’s pretty cut and dry and I found that I was dialing in useable tones within minutes of screwing around with the unit. Of course it did help that I had Tom show me what’s up before I started messing around but I can’t see anyone not being able to get some sounds out of this thing after screwing around with it a bit. Kage used to have a POD pro and I spent hours screwing around with that thing and ended up with a so so tone that sounded like crap when played through a power amp. The axe-fx already smoked any of the LIVE tones that I got out of the POD and I was able to do it in minutes not hours. The POD also cannot compete with the effects that are in this unit. In all honest, the PODs effects are a joke and that’s coming from the heart. Now here is the deal, I have never been a fan of direct recording or going direct into a PA (tried it many times…don’t dig it) and I can honestly tell you that plugging this sucker into a tube power amp KILLS. It is the way that I would use it and I am now 100% positive that when using the Axe-fx in this manor, I could burn anyone into thinking that I was using an amp. The other thing that I noticed is that it felt like I was playing an amp and not a modeler. I know people have said this before but I experienced it first hand. I’m pretty sure that if they had the unit setup like this at the NY amp show that Both Dave and I would have shit our pants lol.
Now on to the down and Dirty, Is everyone going to like this thing? Well no, but it really depends on what you are trying to do. If you just wanted this thing for a direct recording solution then I think that some people might be put off because there are so many solutions for that but if you are a gigging guitar player or you are looking for killer compact rig then I can’t see anything touching this sucker…….. period. I can say this now that I’ve actually had a chance to set it up the way I like.
Some of you might not know this but I have joined another band and I was putting together my rig of doom and I have been running into nothing but problems (ground loops and a whole bunch of other shit) I can tell you that with a midi pedal, axe-fx , a tube power amp and speaker cab, I could do a gig TOMMOROW. This thing also can save touring guitarist a ton of hassles of not having to rent a back line when doing traveling gigs! All you would need is a speaker cab or you could go direct (not my first choice as I have already pointed out lol) and you could take a 4 space rack and midi board on the plane with you.
Cliff, I apologize if my initial comments were taken as being negative but I have got to tell you that what I heard at the show and what I heard a few days ago were night and day! You have done a fantastic job with this thing and I’m pretty sure that I will be selling off some stuff to get one because I’m tired if dicking around with my GCX, amps witching midi rack.
More to come and I’m sure that you guys are sick and tired of hearing about this thing but it is all that and a bag of chips if you have a clear idea of what you want to achieve with it! The unit allows you to literally be an amp builder and design your own tone. I had a MKIV like tone within minutes of using the thing. Cliff, I also have to tell you that you need more gain on the MKIV settings lol I had to add a boost to it in order to get the gain levels up to my MKIV :D To quote my buddy Ed Deganaro... this thing slapped my dick into the Dirt and I haven't even gotten started yet!!

More to come !! Kage please feel free to chime in!!

Ralph
 
I had a feeling your opinion would be swayed once you got to play with it!
 
Girlfriend duties :lol: :LOL:

Enjoy it - as I enjoy mine Ralph and Kage.
 
Sounds like you and Kage had a nice day, Ralph! The unit seems to be so damn good according to everyone. How close to IV's feel did you get the axe fx dialed?

Jaakko
 
Bob Savage":20nlu98d said:
I had a feeling your opinion would be swayed once you got to play with it!

And you would be 100% correct. This thing is seriously good and it covers a lot of ground. I don't like the direct sounds so I totally misjudged what this thing is capable. I always wondered what it would sounds like through a poweramp and it did not dissapoint. Add that plus the fact that its relatively easy to use and you can control your effects easier then any unit ive used and its a no brainer. I will definitely be using it in the near future :rock:

Cliff has something special here and there is almost a 100% turnover rate from guys who have had doubts about this thing only to be totally convinced after they get one. Im proof of that and I think Ed is to.
 
duesentrieb":1ixr8izk said:
Girlfriend duties :lol: :LOL:

Enjoy it - as I enjoy mine Ralph and Kage.


:hys: yup the weekend Girlfriend duties have gotten in my way of having some fun with the axe FX lol :D
 
Jakem":3l9aece2 said:
Sounds like you and Kage had a nice day, Ralph! The unit seems to be so damn good according to everyone. How close to IV's feel did you get the axe fx dialed?

Jaakko

In my limited time with it I got scary close minus a few EQ tweaks that I know that I can dial in. The unit also has a sag control that you can dial in to respond like a MKIV. i have no doubt that I can get the type of sounds Im looking for :rock:
 
That's awesome Ralph and Kage. I'm still shocked on a daily basis when playing with my Ultra. Can't wait to hear the patches you guys come up with. I need a good Mark IV patch!
 
Can users share their preset settings by emailing files? Say you build a killer MKIV model, can you send it to someone?

People around the world are flipping out about this unit. I live 20 minutes from where they make the damn thing and Cliff already invited me to come by.... I need to get there soon!
 
jaybird":11p3mrnw said:
Can users share their preset settings by emailing files? Say you build a killer MKIV model, can you send it to someone?

People around the world are flipping out about this unit. I live 20 minutes from where they make the damn thing and Cliff already invited me to come by.... I need to get there soon!

yes you can email the sysex file. *hint hint*

or just upload it to the patch exchange site.
 
sounds like a nice unit, if it wasnt so damn expensive i would check one out, but on the other hand i do see why its so expensive, oh well. my mark iv is leaving me a little cold lately, im still trying to build a rig around the gsystem.
 
yeah man

I agree, going through a power amp and cab is where its at for ultimate realism and feel!!! :rock:
 
Audioholic":3jfvi3e5 said:
yeah man

I agree, going through a power amp and cab is where its at for ultimate realism and feel!!! :rock:

I've tried it both ways and seem to prefer using a FRFR system. It just gives more options for tone. However, I will eventually grab a power amp to have both.
 
Gainfreak":15wiwc8x said:
Bob Savage":15wiwc8x said:
I had a feeling your opinion would be swayed once you got to play with it!

And you would be 100% correct. This thing is seriously good and it covers a lot of ground. I don't like the direct sounds so I totally misjudged what this thing is capable. I always wondered what it would sounds like through a poweramp and it did not dissapoint. Add that plus the fact that its relatively easy to use and you can control your effects easier then any unit ive used and its a no brainer. I will definitely be using it in the near future :rock:

Cliff has something special here and there is almost a 100% turnover rate from guys who have had doubts about this thing only to be totally convinced after they get one. Im proof of that and I think Ed is to.
I sure am.
 
SkyhighRocks":219u8fxq said:
Audioholic":219u8fxq said:
yeah man65s

I agree, going through a power amp and cab is where its at for ultimate realism and feel!!! :rock:

I've tried it both ways and seem to prefer using a FRFR system. It just gives more options for tone. However, I will eventually grab a power amp to have both.
If I had to go either or I'd go with the power amp over FR moniotors. But, I do prefer running it into my VHT 2/50/2 and THD 2x12 with Golds or 65s AND into FOH direct.
 
Good review Ralph! Let us know when you get the MkIV patch dialed in...
 
Neener, neener, neener bro! I told ya... :lol: :LOL: :doh:
Going thru the Mesa 2:90 and the JMP power amp, it is
simply amazing the sounds you can get out of this unit!
 

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