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And you'd be ok with them owning 1?
You have completely missed the point.

Even if you ban all guns it will not take guns out of of the hands of people like this.

Black. Market.

You are so hung up on what you have decided is the “ideal” solution that you completely overlook the fallibilities inherent to your solution.
 
You have completely missed the point.

Even if you ban all guns it will not take guns out of of the hands of people like this. l

Black. Market.

You are so hung up on what you have decided is the “ideal” solution that you completely overlook the failure points of your solution.
You keep bringing up irrelevant stuff. I'm trying to find out if you'd be ok with those dopes owning ARs and fuckin battleships and shit. Let's just pretend they can afford it and do it legally.
 
You keep bringing up irrelevant stuff. I'm trying to find out if you'd be ok with those dopes owning ARs and fuckin battleships and shit. Let's just pretend they can afford it and do it legally.
Already answered. Yes, if they can pass a background check. Yes. yes. yes. yes.

Doesn’t matter though they can get them regardless. Your wants and whims are ireelevant in fhe face of reality.

You keep putting out irrelevant hypotheticals. “Are you ok with…. Bombers, tanks”. None of it matter because you don’t make the laws.
 
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
The 2nd in all of its glory
the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.
Pretty straight forward. It explicitly grants the right to the people. This has been affirmed by the US Supreme Court. Also “shall not” is very strong and proscriptive language when used in legislation.
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State
Again the “well regulated” has been interpretted by the courts and that interpretation is the law of the land.

You disagree. Your opinion does not matter.
 
Saw this recently.
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Well if you're so hung up on that you can't rightfully exclude felons and crazies either right? :dunno:
not hung up on anything except our inalienable rights that you're so willing to throw away and deny.

if you served your time as required and are free, you're Constitutional rights should be restored.
 
No law you will pass will have the slightest impact on illegal guns.

And the very idiots you are worried about are precisely the type to be ok with going to an illegal purchase if legal guns are unavailable.
For many years now this has been my position.

Didn't those kids who perpetrated Columbine break 19 gun laws? Anyone think 20 or more would've made any difference?
 
Normal font, you're wrong
Try to read with comprehension, it helps:

"Well-regulated" as understood by our Founding Fathers meant that an adult male citizen was expected to be knowledgeable and capable in the care and use of their weapons. If you weren't well-regulated, i.e., didn't know how to care for and use your weapons you are of no use to the militia or anyone else.

Every adult male citizen had the freedom and responsibility to "keep and bear arms", that is to own and use arms, and to be well-regulated with their arms.

Every adult male citizen was expected to be the militia, owning, using, caring for their own weapons. This is exactly what the citizens did in Lexington and Concord, the Minutemen assembled in minutes, and confronted a British force on their way from Boston to arrest patriot leaders and confiscate munitions from the colonists.

The idea that only people with knowledge, training and understanding should "keep and bear arms" is consistent with the Founding Fathers because it was expected of every adult male citizen to be "well regulated" - which at the time meant competent with care and use of one's arms and armament.

If you were not "well regulated" you could not be counted as reliable and valuable to the militia - every adult male citizen = the militia. Imagine a platoon of soldiers in the army who did not know how to use or care for their weapons?

That is the original freedom and responsibility intended by the Founding Fathers when they wrote the 2A. If you are going to have the freedom to keep and bear arms as a citizen (the militia) you are responsible for being well-regulated (knowing how to use and care for your arms and armament).
 
In the original English:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

What’s the subject of the sentence?
 
In the original English:

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

What’s the subject of the sentence?

"I ask, sir, what is the militia? It is the whole people except for a few public officials." - George Mason
 
She definitely deserves a fleet of fighter jets.

don't worry, she'd be spending her OF earnings on travel, fashion and cars not fighter jets.

I'd get a minigun, and submarine if funds allowed; I'd probably go with the ballistic missile model, though the attack sub is faster, but the new cruise missile subs are compelling designs and specs too. They'd sell more, so the prices may come down, then again increased demand and low supply usually has the opposite effect. :D
 
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