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Hey if you're comfy living in the 1600s by all means, enjoy.
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VonBonfire
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You aren't are a mini UK but you are more like the UK than you are like the US. Higher taxes, strict gun control, social medicine, generally more liberal leaning. I would say the same thing about Australia as well. You both still have members of the crown on your currency. King Charles is technically still your head of state.
I don't think you are any more unified against Trump than Americans were unified against Trudeau or Carney. You just had 25% of Alberta vote to leave Canada. Obviously a large contingent in Canada no longer likes Canada as it is today. The same can be said for many left leaning Americans. I'm sure many of the people in MN and similar places where progressive ideas are popular would love to become a part of Canada. Truthfully, neither of those things are something I'd ever expect to happen. Regardless, in my view, neither of our nations have truly representative governments anymore.
JamesTiberiusKirk
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Hmmm, maybe.
You're mistaken here. First of all neither Trudeau or Carney threatened US sovereignty. It would have laughable. And we don't think that way. Trump's attack on Canada via tariffs had an immediate and severe impact on the election that followed. The Liberal party went from being eliminated as an official party (not exaggerating) to winning the election when the Conservative leader was seen as kowtowing to Trump. It was a resounding rejection of far right policies. Resounding. Shocking really.
I've voted Conservative all my life. Most of you here see me as a pink pussy hat wearing commie liberal bagel eater but by Canadian standards I'm right leaning. In the last election I actually voted for Carney. Ya, I was surprised too.
As to the 25% of Albertans who voted that way, remember, it was a referendum that asked IF we should have a binding referendum on separation, NOT a referendum ON separation. A good number of the 25% were people who wanted to "send a message" but would never actually want to leave. The others, well, we have some stupid, and some uninformed, and some gullible people here too.
As Frank Zappa said, the most common element in the universe isn't hydrogen, it's stupidity. Hyperbole for effect of course but the point is solid.
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Robostyle
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The canicunts think they know everything about the U.S. and its citizens.
Bigots.
Bigots.
JamesTiberiusKirk
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I seem to be better informed than you are. That's sad really.
67mike
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My iron will let the air out of anything walking these lands. Bear, Moose, deer, Elk, whatever I choose to hit, will die rapidly.
So, what exactly is the issue?
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VonBonfire
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So will my 50 cal muzzleloader, and? The problem is when a car load of meth heads shows up to my place mistaking me for someone they have beef with my bolt actions or single shots are not what I want to be stuck using. 30 rounds of 7.62x39 as fast as I can pull the trigger makes more sense.
Shevek
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We aren't interested in challenging your country's title as the #1 in murder among developed nations.
Shevek
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And that happens to you often? You wind up in shootouts?
JamesTiberiusKirk
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It's the Rambo fantasy that many have.
Me I keep atomic weapons in my basement for when the aliens attack. No, wait, a phial full of flu virus...that's what got them the last time. Scratch the nukes.
67mike
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My wife worked in the US for a few years. I spent exactly half of my time THERE during those years.
I cannot count the number of times I have traveled through the US.
It is unfortunate that the politics are what they are, because in general, we really are great neighbour's and friends to each other.
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VonBonfire
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Freedom entails more risk. I don't really expect a Canadian guy to understand the concept.
There have been some unsettling incidents out here. A triple murder-suicide on my street. Some pursuits of wanted felons. Also, feral dogs are a problem in TX and my area is a known dumping ground for unwanted animals. I actually kept a dog some POS dumped off in the 100 degree heat. Then we had someone running an illegal dump down the street and renting campsites to their meth head friends. Use your imagination. Fortunately the place got closed down and things quieted down accordingly. If you need a cop here they are 15 minutes or more away.
67mike
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I am not too afraid of that. I am fortunate not to live in the ghetto.
Also how many methheads are going to stick around when they are getting fucking peppered by a 12 guage pump action?
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VonBonfire
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It has nothing to do with fear, it's about protecting my loved ones and neighbors. See my post, #112. I live in a beautiful area with a rural feel about fifteen minutes from a boom town on the I35 corridor. Even lesbians in Texas pack heat. It's cultural. Understand the context. Do you hear me whining about not needing maple syrup for my pancakes?
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VonBonfire
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Probably none but I bought an AK before I owned a 12 gauge since I don't bird hunt. Also functions as my deer rifle. Really thumps them good.
Shevek
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What freedoms exactly do you think you have that we don't?
Shevek
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International freedom rankings
Freedom House — 2026
Canada:
97/100
United States
81/100
Measures political rights and civil liberties.
Freedom House
Human Freedom Index — 2025
Canada
12th
8.74/10
United States
15th
8.71/10
Out of 165 jurisdictions, using 2023 data. Published jointly by the libertarian Cato Institute and Canada's Fraser Institute. Cato Institute
The comparison is particularly interesting because these are free-market, limited-government organizations, not left-wing advocacy groups.
Freedom House — 2026
Canada:
97/100
United States
81/100
Measures political rights and civil liberties.
Freedom House
Human Freedom Index — 2025
Canada
12th
8.74/10
United States
15th
8.71/10
Out of 165 jurisdictions, using 2023 data. Published jointly by the libertarian Cato Institute and Canada's Fraser Institute. Cato Institute
The comparison is particularly interesting because these are free-market, limited-government organizations, not left-wing advocacy groups.
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VonBonfire
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Your government can place certain limits on freedom of speech. You also don't have an explicit guarantee of gun rights. Your use of force laws are also more tightly governed. Judgement by a jury of my peers in a civil lawsuit vs a judge being the arbiter in Canada. As a witness, I can refuse to answer questions in a courtroom under the 5th amendment, as a witness you can be compelled to testify. We have better protections from evidence gained during an illegal search whereas in Canada evidence gained thereby could potentially be used against you. My government cannot take my property without just compensation whereas your government lacks a property rights clause.
Thanks for asking, I just learned how deficient your rights are in comparison, beyond the usual guns and freedom of speech issues I was already familiar with. Would you like me to name some more?
Floyd Eye
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What, like hidden away like Australia does ? Actually most of the 70% of guns that were supposed to be turned in but never were are in the hands of biker gangs now in Australia.
Or maybe you meant to type "We have lots of gun laws. Lots"
Floyd Eye
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The issue is you let your rulers tell you what guns you can have.
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