As Clown World Turns...

[Laputan Machine]

Wow. I probably would've bounced based on that. I probably have too much pride for my own good though.


That's messed up too. Orthodoxy will likely accept someone struggling with homosexuality but not one who admits to be actively practicing it.


Yeah it's weird. I have read and re-read the Torah many times and it's crystal clear as a nation they violated the terms of the agreement laid out in Deuteronomy and suffered the curse therein. And there is no temple so not all 613 commandments can be followed. I could go into detail about it more but not sure it would really benefit either of us, or anyone else I guess.

All the 'judeo-christian' talking points from Christians..... Most people think they are sort of two flavors of monotheism, but they are truly diametrically opposed when you actually learn about rabbinic/talmudic judaism. It basically boils down to jews view themselves above God, Christians view themselves below. There's all this shit in there where rabbinic judaism is basically playing semantics and conceiving schemes on how to 'fool God.' The very notion of that to Christians is absurd and completely disgusting. It becomes absolutely mind blowing when you learn how that shit works. I think Christianity is closer to Islam than rabbinic judaism, at least in some simplistic essence.

 

[VonBonfire]

I was actually really depressed when I first got there. Was kind of a last minute decision for me to go, and I’m not all that used to being away from home for so long. However, I did confession and received the priest’s blessing. My mood changed completely for the better. Really was a blessing. I ended up really enjoying the time there, met some truly great people.

That doesn't surprise me at all. I find the longer I skip the sacraments the more I dread going and then when I go the more I realized "wow, what the heck was I even dreading to begin with" cause my priest is a really good priest and it always lightens my mood. It's some sort of evil demonic thing that tries to keep me from doing them.

All this sort of heavy stuff....I never experienced it in this way until entering orthodoxy. It was great at first but the build up to baptism was brutal. Then I got baptized and it was great. Like the last great lent the level of oppression was insane and as soon as the lights flipped on at midnight sunday morning it was like all of that evaporated. In the meantime I was having multiple intense nightmares every night and I almost had never had nightmares prior, and even having nighttime visions of grotesque demons. But I was able to confess to an archpriest, explained what was going on, and he told me to read scripture after morning prayers and then take a sip of holy water. Sure enough it was like a force field had been raised and I was protected. If I skipped the scripture or the holy water in forgetfulness I'd sure know it. I been doing that every day since.

 

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All the 'judeo-christian' talking points from Christians..... Most people think they are sort of two flavors of monotheism, but they are truly diametrically opposed when you actually learn about rabbinic/talmudic judaism. It basically boils down to jews view themselves above God, Christians view themselves below. All the shit in there rabbinic judaism is basically playing semantics and conceiving schemes on how to 'fool God.' The very notion of that to Christians is absurd and completely disgusting. It becomes absolutely mind blowing when you learn how that shit works.

Jews claim to debate God and win those debates, and think they can sin all year and just transfer their sins to a chicken and beat the shit out of it to fool God....

Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. I've been using the term judeo-islamic for years and I am actually glad to see other people finally using that term. Even jews will admit they have far more in common with islam than Christianity....

 

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That doesn't surprise me at all. I find the longer I skip the sacraments the more I dread going and then when I go the more I realized "wow, what the heck was I even dreading to begin with" cause my priest is a really good priest and it always lightens my mood. It's some sort of evil demonic thing that tries to keep me from doing them.

All this sort of heavy stuff....I never experienced it in this way until entering orthodoxy. It was great at first but the build up to baptism was brutal. Then I got baptized and it was great. Like the last great lent the level of oppression was insane and as soon as the lights flipped on at midnight sunday morning it was like all of that evaporated. In the meantime I was having multiple intense nightmares every night and I almost had never had nightmares prior, and even having nighttime visions of grotesque demons. But I was able to confess to an archpriest, explained what was going on, and he told me to read scripture after morning prayers and then take a sip of holy water. Sure enough it was like a force field had been raised and I was protected. If I skipped the scripture or the holy water in forgetfulness I'd sure know it. I been doing that every day since.

I deal with a lot of heaviness and have a ton of spiritual warfare. The deeper I have gotten into my faith, the more of it I deal with, either in my dreams or sleep paralysis. Both in dreams and the sleep paralysis, they evolved into crazy out of body experiences, in which I would stand there and watch my body thrashing around in the bed... I had always dealt with sleep paralysis, but when I was a flaming atheist, I never saw entities. The sleep paralysis demons were super intense for a while too. Calling out to Jesus during these episodes always made them go away. Sometimes they fizzle away, like a gas or something lol. So I know there is power to his name and only made me stronger in my faith. When I was an atheist, I feel I had never seen entities during my sleep paralysis episodes because they didn't need to bother me as I was exactly where they wanted me to be.

I have a bottle of holy water I keep around that I got from the Maronite church near my home. When things get bad, it's very handy when I feel I need to bless the home.

 

[Laputan Machine]

Jews claim to debate God and win those debates, and think they can sin all year and just transfer their sins to a chicken and beat the shit out of it to fool God....

Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. I've been using the term judeo-islamic for years and I am actually glad to see other people finally using that term. Even jews will admit they have far more in common with islam than Christianity....

It's hilarious how this goofy shit explains so much about the world.

 

[VonBonfire]

I deal with a lot of heaviness and have a ton of spiritual warfare. The deeper I have gotten into my faith, the more of it I deal with, either in my dreams or sleep paralysis. Both in dreams and the sleep paralysis, they evolved into crazy out of body experiences, in which I would stand there and watch my body thrashing around in the bed... I had always dealt with sleep paralysis, but when I was a flaming atheist, I never saw entities. The sleep paralysis demons were super intense for a while too. Calling out to Jesus during these episodes always made them go away. Sometimes they fizzle away, like a gas or something lol. So I know there is power to his name and only made me stronger in my faith. When I was an atheist, I feel I had never seen entities during my sleep paralysis episodes because they didn't need to bother me as I was exactly where they wanted me to be.

I have a bottle of holy water I keep around that I got from the Maronite church near my home. When things get bad, it's very handy when I feel I need to bless the home.

Sounds like we are on a similar page here...the heaviness. Prior to being orthodox I thought spiritual warfare was arguing with non christians. My protestant relatives seem to still think that, lol.

If you haven't already, you definitely need to be running this stuff by your priest. If he can't offer some guidance he might be able to direct you to a hieromonk or someone who can. At least in my case.

The atheist and nonbeliever won't usually experience any of that stuff because why would satan allocate members of his army when someone is already doing his bidding in unbelief? Tbh with you I can get it all to go away the same just by neglecting my prayer rule or by phoning it in so to speak, but that's just more evidence that it is real, and having a real effect in the spirit realm. I'm too far in to do that. The further I devote myself the more aggressive the attacks get, usually in that same form of heaviness.

I wish I could gain control over dreams in the way you have been able to but it's not usually the case. One night during lent I, with great effort, was able to make the sign of the cross, and like you mentioned, it all went away. Since following the arch priests directives, and making it past lent, things have been much calmer though the heaviness attacks have resumed somewhat but the force field is still in effect. That said I need to get to liturgy in the next few weeks.

Great talking to you about this btw.

 

[Laputan Machine]

Jews claim to debate God and win those debates, and think they can sin all year and just transfer their sins to a chicken and beat the shit out of it to fool God....

Judeo-Christian is an oxymoron. I've been using the term judeo-islamic for years and I am actually glad to see other people finally using that term. Even jews will admit they have far more in common with islam than Christianity....

The crux to me is as far as I know, Muslims don't place themselves above God (as in Christianity). Maybe I'm misunderstanding stuff about Islam though.

 

[JDs Couch]

But bro. How else can we get dynamic pricing based on your facial expressions and heart rate when looking at a product you’re considering purchasing at Walmart?

Kevin O’Leary’s 40,000 acre data center is absolutely necessary! What are you, a boomer adverse to change? It’s the future!

How dare you guys complain while the Dow is over 50,000? Everyone knows the stock market perfectly reflects the real economy, and when it goes up, the average citizen benefits...

 

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Sounds like we are on a similar page here...the heaviness. Prior to being orthodox I thought spiritual warfare was arguing with non christians. My protestant relatives seem to still think that, lol.

If you haven't already, you definitely need to be running this stuff by your priest. If he can't offer some guidance he might be able to direct you to a hieromonk or someone who can. At least in my case.

The atheist and nonbeliever won't usually experience any of that stuff because why would satan allocate members of his army when someone is already doing his bidding in unbelief? Tbh with you I can get it all to go away the same just by neglecting my prayer rule or by phoning it in so to speak, but that's just more evidence that it is real, and having a real effect in the spirit realm. I'm too far in to do that. The further I devote myself the more aggressive the attacks get, usually in that same form of heaviness.

I wish I could gain control over dreams in the way you have been able to but it's not usually the case. One night during lent I, with great effort, was able to make the sign of the cross, and like you mentioned, it all went away. Since following the arch priests directives, and making it past lent, things have been much calmer though the heaviness attacks have resumed somewhat but the force field is still in effect. That said I need to get to liturgy in the next few weeks.

Great talking to you about this btw.

I did speak to the priest at my church a few days ago. However, since I had not been in a while, I didn’t know the priest I was used to had left to pursue other endeavors. So the priest I spoke to was new (to me). I was very nervous since I hadn’t seen him before and feel I didn’t get out as much as I should have. Was like a stage fright type of moment or something lol. He did ask me to come back so we can talk more and also to get to know each other more. I did like him though so I know all will be well. I’d like to go with the gf again if I do go back. She’s ex catholic and not a fan of the Catholic Church in general, but she’s been with me multiple times in the past so I know her going with me won’t necessarily be an issue. While we have a lot of disagreements, I don’t know where I would be without her guiding me back to the Lord.

Yeah that’s pretty much what my gf has told me about demonic spirits and atheists. There isn’t any reason to dedicate any sort of time to a non believer. And I definitely agree with her now after all I’ve experienced.

As for having control of dreams I.e lucid or “astral projecting” there is something heavy and spiritual about it. During those moments for me, I felt extreme discomfort and just an overall unsettling feeling. It just felt wrong. I know people aim to be able to do that, but I do not recommend it. It just does not feel good. Being out of my body and watching my physical body thrashing around actually freaked me out and I knew there was something wrong. I even just loligagged around my surroundings and I felt an attack the entire time. Super scary….

Great talking to you about it as well! I do enjoy these chats.

 

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The crux to me is as far as I know, Muslims don't place themselves above God (as in Christianity). Maybe I'm misunderstanding stuff about Islam though.

The reason Jews look at Islam more favorably is that they view Islam as truly monotheistic, unlike Christianity which they view as idolatry due to the trinity.

 

[VonBonfire]

As for having control of dreams I.e lucid or “astral projecting” there is something heavy and spiritual about it. During those moments for me, I felt extreme discomfort and just an overall unsettling feeling. It just felt wrong. I know people aim to be able to do that, but I do not recommend it. It just does not feel good. Being out of my body and watching my physical body thrashing around actually freaked me out and I knew there was something wrong. I even just loligagged around my surroundings and I felt an attack the entire time. Super scary….

Great talking to you about it as well! I do enjoy these chats.

The astral projecting is definitely not something to toy with or seek out at all. At bare minimum it can lead to spiritual delusion. Def enjoying the discussion. Glad to see you getting back to your faith, it can only help bro.

 

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The astral projecting is definitely not something to toy with or seek out at all. At bare minimum it can lead to spiritual delusion. Def enjoying the discussion. Glad to see you getting back to your faith, it can only help bro.

I know it is 100% spiritual, because while I felt I had a little control, it seemed to have just happened without me seeking it out whatsoever. It was definitely semi-lucid, but completely unintentional on my end.

Thank you! It's been a hell of a battle, but I shall prevail.

 

[watson503]

This is all I've got for tonight - caught yet another permanent suspension on X (no reason stated, as usual)....I'm going to have to take inspiration from a former member here and start creating alts, I guess

 

[JDs Couch]

This is all I've got for tonight - caught yet another permanent suspension on X (no reason stated, as usual)....I'm going to have to take inspiration from a former member here and start creating alts, I guess

Wow, you would have to be a real extreme shitbag to get banned from Xitter, congrats.

 

[Wizard of Ozz]

This is all I've got for tonight - caught yet another permanent suspension on X (no reason stated, as usual)....I'm going to have to take inspiration from a former member here and start creating alts, I guess

You know this creature will then go and destroy the plumbing of it's tax payer funded Section 8 pillbox after eating that slop... and taking a direct Alpha Stryke in to her poor toilet... then expect tax payers to pay for the plumbing repairs and complain how bad it's tax payer funded living conditions are... muh toilet is always broke!

Get a job you bum.

 

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@VonBonfire

This is upsetting...

 

[Geo]

Just imagine the smell on that boat.

 

[JDs Couch]

Just imagine the smell on that boat.
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Probably about half as bad as your house...

 

[Geo]

Probably about half as bad as your house...

 

[JDs Couch]

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Geo and family:
"Other peepul smellz bad hyuck!"