Concert Prices these days..

[Kapo_Polenton]

"It could take 4.8 million just to break even" ...notice the "could" and not FACT. Furthermore see the numbers they pulled here:

http://www.theprp.com/2016/09/07/news/e ... etc-shows/


Low end of the spectrum, 8 million a night. Also, those ticket prices on the link I posted say nothing about service FEE which is what the venues put on top of it. They also get to keep all the beer and food money.

So I was looking at what the big artists gross. So Madonna and the Biebs can easily make 1 Million + each show pay after all the pigs have eaten at the troth. So let's just say this is the number. I see it divied up most likely

200,000 Rose,Slash,Duff
100,000 Drummer
300,000 to whoever else is left on stage.

I have counted 52 shows to play on the 2017 tour. Axl could be making 10,000,000$ for just over 8 months on tour. He also will make more on merchandise and back catalogue whenever the song is played in a movie or at a rink etc.....

Crazy to think that they would only make 1 million to divie up when 8-11 million are made a show but who knows....

 

[Shawn Lutz]

why I won't go to arena shows. I prefer the smaller venues and less popular artists. $200+ isn't worth it to me

 

[acalaf]

pure supply and demand

 

[MetalHeadMike]

blacksheeprocks in Colorado Springs, I never paid more than $15 to see Cannibal Corpse, Soulfly, Act of defiance, D.R.I, Whitechapel, Queensryche (next Monday, $18), Hellyeah, Mashroomhead, Gwar
No more than 100 people at each show, cheap drinks, awesome venue

I wanted to go to so many shows there when I was still CO, but it was a 3 hour drive from where I lived. The distance didn't bother me but the shows I wanted to see always seemed to be in the winter and no way I was driving through the mountains in shitstorm weather with all the touregs on the fuckin road.

Really wanted to see High on Fire there goddammit!

 

[Kevin11]

I wanted to go to so many shows there when I was still CO, but it was a 3 hour drive from where I lived. The distance didn't bother me but the shows I wanted to see always seemed to be in the winter and no way I was driving through the mountains in shitstorm weather with all the TOUREGS on the fuckin road.

Really wanted to see High on Fire there goddammit!

 

[geese_com]

You're not seeing the concern that Kapo is posting about. GnR is reportedly making $3mil per show. Tix range from $35 to $275. Lets just average it at $115 x 65,000 plus the $15 avg in fees per ticket = $8,450,000 - $3,000,000(GnR). That Nets $5,450,000 for promoters, venues, & tix sellers. WTF GREED GREED GREED.

Good point here. However, the band does not see any of the $15 in fees. Those convenience fees when you purchase a ticket go straight to the ticket seller and they are the ones who are arbitrarily setting the price of those convenience fees.

So now we are looking at splitting $7,475,000.

$7,475,000
( 448,500) taxes (assuming 6% tax rate)
(3,000,000) band guarantee
(2,500,000) show expenses including payment for support act (given that this is probably a stadium show, it will cost a lot to put the show on)
----------
$1,526,500 remaining profit to split amount the promoters and venue

From what I see, the number one driver of ticket prices is the band's guarantee. After that, the rest of the deal is built.
I left out any merch and ancillary (food & beverage, facility fees) revenue streams, but those are usually use to pay any band overages and go towards the profit that is split between the promoter and venue.

Of course this is also assuming a complete sell out of the show.

 

[SpiderWars]

I vaguely remember the Eagles charging huge (at the time) ticket prices for one of their reunion tours, prices that to me were unheard of before. So I just wanted to take this opportunity to blame Don Henley for high concert ticket prices.

 

[rokket2005]

People pay upwards of $5-600 for three day festivals where one guy stands on stage, waves his hands in the air, and presses play on a laptop. You're mad about 7-8 guys actually performing music? Those same people pay thousands of dollars to stand in the desert for a week too though.

 

[155]

Ive noticed the less money you pay for a show, generally the better the show...these high priced shows in arenas suck, I rather go to a small venue and see some quality band rather then washed up 70 year olds..

 

[indespise]

Seems like most of the bands who are getting that AARP dollar have realized that their the older crowd has a lot of money.

 

[Rick Lee]

I vaguely remember the Eagles charging huge (at the time) ticket prices for one of their reunion tours, prices that to me were unheard of before. So I just wanted to take this opportunity to blame Don Henley for high concert ticket prices.

Yeah, that was the Hell Freezes Over Tour around 1993-4. $150 for a ticket was just insane back in those days. But Glenn Frey said they would be worth every penny, and, unlike a lot of washed up reunion tours, those guys really did practice their asses off and put on a killer show. If you watch that old MTV concert from that tour, they really brought it and crushed it. I'd pay big money to see my favorite bands really play that well.

 

[SpiderWars]

Ive noticed the less money you pay for a show, generally the better the show...these high priced shows in arenas suck, I rather go to a small venue and see some quality band rather then washed up 70 year olds..

Me too, many bands I would love to have seen in their prime I have no interest in seeing now especially at the high prices. I stood right in front of Guthrie Govan in a small venue for $20-something a couple years ago.

 

[BYTOR]

http://www.blabbermouth.net/news/guns-n ... -24-hours/

Go read the link.........I think GNR & their promoters know what they are doing just fine thank you..........

Telling others that they should not take all the cash people are so willing to give them is comical

 

[Tone Monster]

If you have ever downloaded even 1 pirated song, then turn around and complain about concert tickets prices....suck a huge purple vein moose dick. Just sayin. That's the reason.

 

[alan67]

I saw the Scorpions in 81' for $15

 

[jkdsteve]

Not even sure I want to quote what Monsters of Rock (Donington) cost me in '87 and '88 ... GnR were a support act in '88 to Maiden too......prices have become obscene.

 

[Kelly]

Ive noticed the less money you pay for a show, generally the better the show...these high priced shows in arenas suck, I rather go to a small venue and see some quality band rather then washed up 70 year olds..

Me too, many bands I would love to have seen in their prime I have no interest in seeing now especially at the high prices. I stood right in front of Guthrie Govan in a small venue for $20-something a couple years ago.

This past year I've seen Guthrie for $20, Vai for $38, and Van Halen (8 rows from the stage) for $90. If you shop around, you can get good deals on big shows. FYI, a new car was about $8000 in the eighties, too....

 

[skoora]

What's live music? Don't think I've seen it since 2007....

Really, I have not seen a band at a bar/club or theatre in 10 years. The thought of going to an arena to see anyone is just plain horrifying. Most of those shows sounded terrible when I was young enough to bare with all the shortcomings, of terrible seats, big crowds and a shitty bus ride from Boston to Worcester. The only arena show I've ever seen that was memorable was the first Kiss reunion in '96. Granted, I was in bars from 14 to 35 pursuing, either girls or music so I hit a saturation point of not wanting it anymore. Plus I haven't come across any new bands in so long that remotely motivate me to see them. My live venue is YouTube.

I will say all these "expert" breakdowns of the revenue stream from all the tour managers on the forum is pretty fucking special. Am I correct that it's pretty much the old or nostalgic bands charging these prices? If so, that honestly makes sense. Their customers can afford it and no new, up and coming music is pricing itself out of the market, right? The music that excites the youngsters...

 

[mdc1mdc11]

maybe discussed already, but what pisses me off are these entities (not sure who they are) that snatch huge blocks of tickets and then create an inflated secondary market for those tickets...middle-men dbags. I guess that kind of screws the artist and the fan. I think Metallica has some unkind words for this, but it would be interesting to see this shut down. Let the original ticket purchaser create that secondary market, but somehow limit the anonymous buyer that buys entire sections of the seating.

with that said, I can only think of maybe 1-2 artists that I would be super premium for...an LZ reunion or something of that magnitude.

 

[garey77]

People are NOT buying albums. Bands make money from shows. Whats the disconnect here?

The disconnect is the exorbitant amount in fees tacked on to the already inflated tix prices. Again the bands are not really playing for an astronomical amount. It's the promoters that set the ticket prices, collect form ticket sales to pay the band, venue, etc...(which they add on several fees), the venue has to be paid(which they over charge now), your cost for parking, etc...etc... The cheapest seat are $35ea. So for 2 ppl to go out will easily set you back $250 for a concert for 2(cuz i'm drinking several $9.50 beers, parking, food & drinks for my girl). Most expensive seats will set ya back around $780 for 2. FOOK THAT!!!

TYPE Standard Ticket
TICKET PRICE $35.00 x 2
SERVICE FEE $10.00 x 2
FACILITY CHARGE $5.09 x 2
SUBTOTAL $100.18

TYPE Standard Ticket
TICKET PRICE $275.00 x 2
SERVICE FEE $25.00 x 2
FACILITY CHARGE $15.97 x 2
SUBTOTAL $631.94

no one is FORCING YOU to go to the show.

I went and saw Gojira for $30. great fucking show.
Meshuggah for $30. Great fucking show.

go to the show you can afford.
and I don't drink alcohol...so that means nothing to me.

Dude. The disconnect is the turds charging that much to see a show. I agree if you can afford and want to spend $200, by all means have at it. But, I feel it's short-sighted on their part. You're taking advantage of the people who do want to see you, but limiting your audience to those who can afford to, so you're not going to gain anyone in the long run.
One of the cool things when I was a kid was going to see a show that I didn't know the opener or maybe the main act, and got turned on to some badass bands, that I later bought their shit. You just like playing devils advocate man.

Look., here is the deal.

Take a look at the stage, the number of personnel needed to transport , the amount of gas needed for all those semis, the payroll for EVERY piece of every cog in that machine. THATS A HUGE FUCKING TOUR.

At some point. the promoter who is basically guaranteeing the shows $$$ needs to pay EVERYONE, AND make a profit.

now you have 200+ employees, all traveling musicians and their support crew, managers, agents, press , facilities , EVERYONE...needs to get paid.

Its not like the band members are taking $200 of your ticket.

If you want a festival that stays in ONE spot for ONE or TWO days, then yes...you can lower the price and have MORE people come out to offset the costs.

When you're playing a single night in one single town then packing EVERYTHING up and MOVING it 1000miles away, that has COSTS.

so they are putting on this HUGE endeavor to reach as MANY people as possible all over the place, and it costs a lot of money now. Gas is the most expensive its been in 50 years. WHAT do you want them to do? LOSE money??

SO, its lets about being a devils advocate than being a pragmatic realist. If you don't like the price, Thats fine. i understand. DONT GO. Protest with your absence. Support smaller acts that have great music and lower ticket prices.

But the OP was "Concert Prices these days..." And I responded with relatively CHEAP concert prices...AND i provided a REAL reason why GNR or these HUGE fucking acts need to charge a lot of money. Just trying to be realistic here.

Perfectly put.