Dare I ask…?

[glpg80]

My gigging days are far behind me, but my last gigging right was a DSL 50 with a boost and a gate. Probably did a hundred gigs with that setup. Thrash band, of course . I switched from an 800 to the DSL mostly because I got tired of being told to turn down.

Madison Square Basement is my gig these days and I’m perfectly happy.

If I were to gig today, I would strongly consider using a Katana with a cab. I like a head and cab. And Price point and functionality appeal to me….if it were to get messed up, I can buy another relatively inexpensively.

If I were gigging today, I’d strongly consider grabbing a blackstar DA100. I like the tone more than the iconic series and they feel great under the fingers. I’d prefer an amp over a modeler.

Ain’t no way I’d be gigging the super rare one off stuff. I’m not big enough to have security on site. I’d get an amp that is grab and go.

 

[VonBonfire]

If I were gigging today, I’d strongly consider grabbing a blackstar DA100. I like the tone more than the iconic series and they feel great under the fingers. I’d prefer an amp over a modeler.

I don't know anyone doing church gigs here who isn't using a modeler and silent stages (asides from the drums).

 

[7704A]

I'm hoping to try out for the church band soon, and the planned rig is 2204->PS100 reactive load->FX and IR loader. Maybe hauling a little DSL1HR for backup. Silent stage, otherwise I'd try to pack a half stack.

 

[glpg80]

I don't know anyone doing church gigs here who isn't using a modeler and silent stages (asides from the drums).

Sadly you’re right. Modelers have done more damage than good - one of them being pushing big amps out completely where no sound on stage is impossible to compete with.

 

[VonBonfire]

Sadly you’re right. Modelers have done more damage than good - one of them being pushing them out completely where no sound on stage is impossible to compete with.

I utterly despise them. If all stages were silent and all rigs were modelers I would finally have an amazingly good reason to quit playing guitar.

 

[Bon Darzini]

I utterly despise them. If all stages were silent and all rigs were modelers I would finally have an amazingly good reason to quit playing guitar.

Theyre not that bad man, just because you use a modeler doesnt mean you cant use an amp as well

 

[glpg80]

I utterly despise them. If all stages were silent and all rigs were modelers I would finally have an amazingly good reason to quit playing guitar.

They’ll never compete in the feel category. Analog reigns supreme and my amps are a testament to real custom competition. Same as Wizards or others. They compete with regular lifeless fodder, but not where it counts.

 

[VonBonfire]

Theyre not that bad man, just because you use a modeler doesnt mean you cant use an amp as well

While I appreciate your positive outlook, I got into guitar for the tactile things like toggelz, jewel lights, and numerous switches and knobs. A menu just doesn't do it unless we are at a waffle house after the gig. My guitar is a soul machine not a computer. Integrity to my guitar ideals must be upheld at all costs.

 

[VonBonfire]

They’ll never compete in the feel category. Analog reigns supreme and my amps are a testament to real custom competition. Same as Wizards or others. They compete with regular lifeless fodder, but not where it counts.

Respect for staying true to your beliefs and continuing to soldier forward in spite of lame trends.

Imagine trying to sell people on digitally produced food. It's the same from my perspective. A disgusting knockoff of the real thing.

 

[Bon Darzini]

While I appreciate your positive outlook, I got into guitar for the tactile things like toggelz, jewel lights, and numerous switches and knobs. A menu just doesn't do it unless we are at a waffle house after the gig. My guitar is a soul machine not a computer. Integrity to my guitar ideals must be upheld at all costs.

I dont disagree with you, i love my tube amps as well.

Its just the ease of playing shows, and while the feel may not be perfect, the sound is pretty close even for purists and indistinguishable for the average individual

I see youre a fan of james tyler guitars based on your signature…jims been dead for several years, but they still make “his” guitars. Is that any more/less authentic than the modelers?

I can appreciate you sticking to your guns, so no issues. Just a friendly nudge to maybe give one a shot hehehe

 

[Rackman]

I do. We go to a little farm country Methodist church. I sing too, which is not my best thing but I've made peace with it and I'm getting better.

My rig is typically an ES 335 into a Victoria Victorilux HP+. On the very rare occasion that some sort of gain device is needed, I add my backline pedalboard based around a Radial Tonebone Plexitube and might change guitars depending on exactly what we're doing.

My daughter plays too and has a short scale Squire fat strat and for amp I think she's going to start using the Swart Space Tone Atomic Jr.

 

[Rottweiler]

They’ll never compete in the feel category. Analog reigns supreme and my amps are a testament to real custom competition. Same as Wizards or others. They compete with regular lifeless fodder, but not where it counts.

I agree with this, but I haven't played any of the higher end modelers. I've owned several over the years, a few flavors of the line 6 pods, XT live, etc. I swore them off for many years but in 2019, I bought a yamaha thr30 and I used that for practice a few years with headphones and bluetooth tracks. It still has the digital odd feel to it.

I've since moved on to a GPDI/IR with an interface. It sounds amazing and it feels like a big tube amp. Sounds and feels just like my pittbull. Some of the factory IRs were boxy but you can easily load your own. The aftermarket IRs are great.

If I tripped over a pile of cash, I might get a PLIR to play my real amps (only own a few) into the interface just for S&G. I'd really like to jam my class 5 with some classic rock tracks and try some pedals. It would be nice to jam any time of day or night. Some of you silent stage guys or apartment guys might be able to use the PLIR with your big amps. The depth / edge controls are pretty responsive on my PS 100 so I imagine the PLIR would let you dial it in just right.

 

[shredi knight]

My modest worship rig...

 

[Beyond Black]

Theyre not that bad man, just because you use a modeler doesnt mean you cant use an amp as well

Many men prefer tube amps.

 

[Bon Darzini]

Many men prefer tube amps.

Ive already asked for a username change, just hold on

Then the legend will just have to live on on its own lol

 

[shredi knight]

Version 2...

Yeah, I'm a heathen.

 

[Bon Darzini]

Version 2...


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Yeah, I'm a heathen.

 

[Jccobb2]

This was my old rig at the church in Japan. I got a new helix, but haven’t found a place to play here yet. I think my next gig will just be a helix straight in. I do like a floor monitor; not all churches have the $ for full in ear solutions for everyone.

Edit to add: complete overkill. But fun.

 

[rstites]

I played in the church band for a number of years in the 00's and early 10's. I mostly used an old Fender Champ with three pedals out front. I also used my Mesa 22+ fairly frequently with basically the same pedals. Both work well at lower volumes. I've played direct through one of the old amp sim footpedal things - maybe from POD? - and it was fine. It wasn't mind. I used it a lot though at the time to lay down guide tracks doing studio work. I think it ended up mixed in more times that I care to know in the final product. lol

 

[Bon Darzini]

I think it ended up mixed in more times that I care to know in the final product. lol

Its the lords mix man, best to let it be