Fake Fender Outrage by ShitFluencers/CuckFluencers......

"Influencers" are insignificant in this discussion. The word itself is a misnomer. Influencers do not "influence," they just reflect the sentiment of the overall market they're in. They're more like lighting rods. What they are doing here is consolidating the market's overwhelmingly unified collective opinion about what Fender is doing into tangible sentiments like "fuck Fender, these litigation moves are making the world a shittier place for guitar players EVERYWHERE, not just in Europe, and and I won't give them a single dime as long as things stay this way." People arrived at that opinion on their own. The influencers are just broadcasting it.




Funny you mention that. TA has declined all offers for buyout, of which there have been quite a few. He'd also make a lot more money even if he didn't sell out, but just expand, and start letting his quality slip for extra volume. He refuses to do that though, he has intentionally kept his company small and focused because he values building a world class guitar. Same basic story with Suhr.

The crazy thing is that both of those guys say they should not need to exist, but the market has a place for them because Fender will not / cannot make a guitar at that quality with the breadth of custom options Tom and John provide. Case in point, for fucking years I waited for Fender to make the following guitar: strat, silver color, dark board, hardtail, humbucker in the bridge. That's it. I wasn't asking the world. And Fender just would not fucking do it. I must have waited like 5 years. Every single year I watched their features stay the same, and their colors get shittier. Oh you want Lake Placid Blue? Inca Silver? Go fuck yourself. Those colors are locked in the "vault" so our favorite demographic, 80+ years old dudes with vintage Fenders, who have those guitars will see them increase in value, appreciate the ladder being pulled up behind them, and they'll buy more of our stuff. Here have a Cumburst finish instead, wood grain inside, white burst outside. Lovely. What, you don't love that? How about Electric Purple like you'd see on a 90's El Camino? No? Ok fine how about you just pick from 18 different shades of beige, idiot.

So I went to a Tom Anderson dealer because I knew they made custom guitars, researched all that stuff, and had a blast speccing out the s-style guitar I've always wanted. Fender couldn't have made that guitar even if they wanted to. It sucked paying for it, but it's exactly what I wanted in my head and I'm good for hardtail strats from here on out.

But instead of trying to fill a gap in the market, they're just using the law as a weapon to push out competitors. The world will be a worse place for guitar players if Fender gets their way.


Dude I know exactly your pain :hys:

I've been waiting years for a tele with (or honestly even without) p90s in a green finish - could be british racing green, could be inverness green, just a nice green color. Nash has done them, reverend has a koch model, every year I wait to see if they do a chris shifflett in a color like that

and it never fucking happens

If the fender custom shop was remotely worth a shit TA and Suhr would lose like half their business
 
Dude I know exactly your pain :hys:

I've been waiting years for a tele with (or honestly even without) p90s in a green finish - could be british racing green, could be inverness green, just a nice green color. Nash has done them, reverend has a koch model, every year I wait to see if they do a chris shifflett in a color like that

and it never fucking happens

If the fender custom shop was remotely worth a shit TA and Suhr would lose like half their business


Mod Shop?

unless you want a '60s spec Jag.
 
As usual...... 311Lame always siding with the "Hip" and "Hip" BS.....


What a Goober and what a Hip guy :yes:
311 is my favorite band of all time, but they proved even they aren’t above political disagreements and nearly split up as a result.

Seems it’s preferred by the provocateurs for others to fight amongs themselves over anything and everyone so long as they ignore the ones behind the curtain doing the evil of setting them against their brothers and sisters, contriving conspiracies and pointing the finger at the ones that notice.
 
What's that story? I remember the fulltone thing. I asked around and searched the web for what he posted and it was NOTHING. They cancelled him for speaking common sense. It wasn't even bad, if I remember correctly.

Was John Cruz a Fender Custom Shop person? What happened there? Too lazy to search.
He basically just said he didn't think rioting and burning down cities was a good thing, on his own Facebook profile

So they canceled him for it and he was fired from Fender
 
Also goddamn this thread is amusing.

I am convinced Fender could make this revolutionary product and some will buy it just to own the libs (but not the ones in charge of FMIC, apparently)

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Right now I'd settle for a nice thinline parts tele.

Me too man, me too

I was saving for a tele the last couple months but our central air just took a shit - the landlord put air filters inline in our HVAC system and froze a bunch of the coils to the point where they completely failed

so looks like it's another year until i can save enough for a guitar again! :hys:
 
I love jags but then I would have to get one AND a tele, which I have nowhere near enough money to do

you may be able to get the Tele you want in the Mod Shop. Strats and Teles have more design options than the Jag in the Mod Shop, which doesn't have '60s spec electronics.


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https://www.guitarworld.com/gear/electric-guitars/prs-fender-cease-and-desist

PRS has been confirmed as one of the firms that has received a cease-and-desist letter from Fender in its bid to enforce legal protection for the Stratocaster.
Until now, LsL Instruments was the first and only company to go on record to confirm it had received such a letter, which called for the company to halt production of its S-style electric guitar, the Saticoy.
In its own article, the WSJ wrote, “PRS Guitars, a company endorsed by the likes of John Mayer and Carlos Santana, confirmed that it is among the companies that received a letter. The company said it disagrees with Fender’s assessment and declined to comment further.”
In Fender’s response to the widespread backlash over its cease-and-desist strategy, the company strayed away from emphasizing the importance of the specific Strat body shape, stressing it wasn’t concerned with all double-cutaway/two-horned guitars and was instead going after close copies of the Stratocaster design.
However, both Fender and its attorney Bird & Bird failed to provide any characteristics of what they constitute to be a defining feature of the broader Stratocaster “design”, giving way to theories that aesthetic appointments – including the scratchplate shape and control layout – could be a greater consideration.

It now seems likely that this is the approach Fender is taking. The PRS Silver Sky has a different body shape to the Fender Stratocaster, with more refined contours and different proportions, including a scoop on the lower cutaway and longer upper horn.

Other differences included a slightly sloped-shouldered neck joint, and a sharper upper cutaway angle. Since Fender has stated it wouldn’t be going after all double-cutaway guitars, one would assume the proportions of the Silver Sky would render it safe.
As such, Fender is clearly banking on the similarities that can be drawn elsewhere, such as the pickguard – which mirrors the Strat’s a bit more closely – and other aesthetic considerations that gave way to the outpouring of Stratocaster comparisons when it was first released.
 
Me too man, me too

I was saving for a tele the last couple months but our central air just took a shit - the landlord put air filters inline in our HVAC system and froze a bunch of the coils to the point where they completely failed

so looks like it's another year until i can save enough for a guitar again! :hys:
Landlord ain't responsible? How's that work? Been there before.....cost what a nice custom shop tele would run to fix it before it was all over....
 
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