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[Ayrton]

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

Amen!!!
Thanks!!!
Adam

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

Lee –
In all seriousness – let me know when the block arrives and if you are happy with the tonal improvement. It is a great sounding guitar in the first place (my main) – so I know what you’re in for – all good!

Best –
Adam

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I respect karma and its effects...simple as that. I will not wish ill upon you as Karma will come back and bite me in the ass.

I must be lying about everything huh, because I like Futurama and chose a silly forum name.

and still you avoid the questions...

Have a pleasant day Adam, truly.

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

I respect karma and its effects...simple as that. I will not wish ill upon you as Karma will come back and bite me in the ass.

I must be lying about everything huh, because I like Futurama and chose a silly forum name.

and still you avoid the questions...

Have a pleasant day Adam, truly.

Yeah right - What Question!?
If you are in NJ and a high level tech - we must cross paths on the NY/NJ/PA concert circut - I am in several venues every week - we must have dozens of friends in common... Why hide? Why defend a guy who you don't know (or do...)? WHY? Drop me a personal note if it is easier for you.

 

[projectx102]

It seems to me the only reason you entered this thread was to defend yourself, feeling a bit conflicted or just more contradictions?

I do understand that some of my post is speculation. that speculation is based on my experience. I know what I know about the industry as I make my living as a guitar tech, I feel no need to rattle off names to "impress" you or lend myself credibility. My artists are well aware of my capabilities.

I have my own multiple endorsements. I went searching for NONE of them. The artist reps come to me with fancy offers and no one has EVER asked for money. Sure I could be wrong about the way you operate surrounding endorsements, I guess your the one guy going against the grain. I am not surprised.

I spent the last year across 17 countries, one gig was 90,000 people, even larger than the Garden you somehow think adds to your credibility. Does that make me more credible than you in your eyes? It should according to your apparent standards.

You choose to attempt to insult me and my mathematical skill instead of answering the real questions I have asked you. If I called on the phone and asked these same questions as a prospective customer would you have treated me the same way? I can only imagine as I will never be calling. I haven't resorted to insulting you, even having gone so far as to edit a post I found unfair to you. your true colors are currently gleaming.

Even after 30 or so people posting in support of you I have already had private messages from other members who have decided they will not use your products secondary to your behavior in this thread. Some asking for my opinion on other manufacturers blocks.

once again you avoid the real issues. And the hard answers to the real questions. Jazzers posts haven't tarnished your reputation in my eyes; yours have. you are correct there has been enough said directly between us. I can see it will go nowhere further in any direction that is constructive.

Good Luck! Truly enjoy your life and I will do the same. Seriously, I wish you no ill will. Karma's a bitch.

According to what I have seen here a LOT more people have come to Adam's defense than the recipient of your man crush.If you have no business with him give it a rest already.Myself and a few other friends are also techs (I tech at 401 Sound Studios in New York) and will continue to buy Adam's products.

 

[projectx102]

I respect karma and its effects...simple as that. I will not wish ill upon you as Karma will come back and bite me in the ass.

I must be lying about everything huh, because I like Futurama and chose a silly forum name.

and still you avoid the questions...

Have a pleasant day Adam, truly.

He sent the guy another block and posted the shipping info!!!!! What is left for you to grasp onto? Questions have been answered by his actions.

 

[Rufus Leaking]

This whole thread has gotten very strange...

I have no dog in this fight at all, but from an outsiders perspective, the OP is really stretching it to say that a block with that tiny nick is defective. Grab a file and in 30 seconds you've got a perfect block, how could it possibly be a better idea to go through an international return / replacement / Paypal refund... whatever, over that?

On the other hand, although I admire FRupgrades for going to extreme measures to make this right, it seems very strange that there have been 3 replacements sent out, without more of a stink about where they've gone to. I know if I sent a replacement out to a customer who I knew to be a pain in the ass, I'd make sure I had the evidence of the shipment.. somewhere. If not with the first replacement, at least with the second... and it how time consuming could it possibly be to find that info and forward it to the buyer as opposed to going through this public mudslinging and spending an inordinate amount of time defending oneselves? And how do 2 blocks shipped at different times just go missing?

Maybe I'm missing something, but to me it just doesn't make any sense. Like I said, the whole thing is very strange.

 

[OldSkoolNJ]

Yeah right - What Question!?
If you are in NJ and a high level tech - we must cross paths on the NY/NJ/PA concert circut - I am in several venues every week - we must have dozens of friends in common... Why hide? Why defend a guy who you don't know (or do...)? WHY? Drop me a personal note if it is easier for you.

From my view point I was observing how you do business not who you do business with or have done business with...
You didn't need post's from previous dealings to further credit your reputation in this situation..
For me the reassurance of your reputation could have been easily taken care of on your own by simply posting proof of shipment with the previously sent blocks..
Which would have stood on its own with no questions 2 pages a go..
Hell I would have been satisfied with just seeing proof of your first replacement block
But you did not want to be bothered with it..

Which to me looked very strange be cause I do not know you and have not done business with you..
And I do not personally know any one here that has done business with you..
Some of us also happen to not care what artist uses your block..
Which I think are points that have been clouded here...


But then your whole defensive attitude of we either have to be with you or against you
a long with you were more worried about discrediting, ridiculing, some one with an unbiased opinion..
Then just letting the facts stand on its own..
All of which has struck a really piss poor chord with me on your character...
And that in its self makes some one like me say No I Do Not want to do business with some one like that...

I sincerely applaud your accomplishments but I also hope in the future that you deal with situations like this in a better manner..
Good luck to you

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

This whole thread has gotten very strange...

I have no dog in this fight at all, but from an outsiders perspective, the OP is really stretching it to say that a block with that tiny nick is defective. Grab a file and in 30 seconds you've got a perfect block, how could it possibly be a better idea to go through an international return / replacement / Paypal refund... whatever, over that?

On the other hand, although I admire FRupgrades for going to extreme measures to make this right, it seems very strange that there have been 3 replacements sent out, without more of a stink about where they've gone to. I know if I sent a replacement out to a customer who I knew to be a pain in the ass, I'd make sure I had the evidence of the shipment.. somewhere. If not with the first replacement, at least with the second... and it how time consuming could it possibly be to find that info and forward it to the buyer as opposed to going through this public mudslinging and spending an inordinate amount of time defending oneselves? And how do 2 blocks shipped at different times just go missing?

Maybe I'm missing something, but to me it just doesn't make any sense. Like I said, the whole thing is very strange.

Great points and input. Thanks! I don;t think they are missing... In these cases - I just send another block and basically "self insure" - I got involved in this bull just trying to save face. The buyer alos got a refund. I have wasted a ton of time on this - lost money and am just trying to keep my record at 100%. This is the biggest problem I have ever had - A nick in a block - refunded and replaced - what else should I do... I offered to set up his guitar to boot...
Thanks to the REAL players and supportors! I can't stop the haters and hidden yappers... I just try my best.

Thanks again!
Adam
http://www.FloydUpgrades.com

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

Yeah right - What Question!?
If you are in NJ and a high level tech - we must cross paths on the NY/NJ/PA concert circut - I am in several venues every week - we must have dozens of friends in common... Why hide? Why defend a guy who you don't know (or do...)? WHY? Drop me a personal note if it is easier for you.

From my view point I was observing how you do business not who you do business with or have done business with...
You didn't need post's from previous dealings to further credit your reputation in this situation..
For me the reassurance of your reputation could have been easily taken care of on your own by simply posting proof of shipment with the previously sent blocks..
Which would have stood on its own with no questions 2 pages a go..
Hell I would have been satisfied with just seeing proof of your first replacement block
But you did not want to be bothered with it..

Which to me looked very strange be cause I do not know you and have not done business with you..
And I do not personally know any one here that has done business with you..
Some of us also happen to not care what artist uses your block..
Which I think are points that have been clouded here...


But then your whole defensive attitude of we either have to be with you or against you
a long with you were more worried about discrediting, ridiculing, some one with an unbiased opinion..
Then just letting the facts stand on its own..
All of which has struck a really piss poor chord with me on your character...
And that in its self makes some one like me say No I Do Not want to do business with some one like that...

I sincerely applaud your accomplishments but I also hope in the future that you deal with situations like this in a better manner..
Good luck to you

Sorry I can't make you happy - best of luck to you too!
Adam

 

[Lord Toneking]

Man, I was standing up for Jazzer until I saw the pic of the so called damage

That's really nit picking I believe. Brass is so soft, that literally wouldve taken a few seconds to file that little nick

ok...back to minding my own business. Sorry

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I have been asked to give it a rest as its not my issue and I will. I love being part of this community I am after all a GAS sufferer, not a debater. this place is after all supposed to be about fun.

we will run into each other Adam, I have seen you before, ill introduce myself next time and maybe well have a beer if you're up to it. this is getting to seem like its personal and that is just silly as we don't even know each other. there is no good reason for either of us to add more stress to our lives by bickering. we can just agree to disagree and get on with it.

I really do wish you luck, no matter my opinion of your product OR service. I will remain anonymous to you for now as i really don't need to hear "bad press" coming back to me , as we are already at odds I cant risk my lively hood over something as trivial as this.

transmission out..Im gonna go play with my new colossal cables and get a review up for you guys soon.

 

[Marshall Law]

Bobby and Joe got a file they can fix it

 

[Thedarkone101]

I have been asked to give it a rest as its not my issue and I will. I love being part of this community I am after all a GAS sufferer, not a debater. this place is after all supposed to be about fun.

we will run into each other Adam, I have seen you before, ill introduce myself next time and maybe well have a beer if you're up to it. this is getting to seem like its personal and that is just silly as we don't even know each other. there is no good reason for either of us to add more stress to our lives by bickering. we can just agree to disagree and get on with it.

I really do wish you luck, no matter my opinion of your product OR service. I will remain anonymous to you for now as i really don't need to hear "bad press" coming back to me , as we are already at odds I cant risk my lively hood over something as trivial as this.

transmission out..Im gonna go play with my new colossal cables and get a review up for you guys soon.

Hi, I am new to posting here but have been a lurker for years. I am a huge supporter of FU as well as I consider Adam to be a great friend, not to mention a incredible tech. As a matter of fact he drove to my studio(6hrs round trip) and installed not 1 but 4 blocks as well as all his upgrades without charging me a dime for the labor nor would he accept anything in return. He just wanted to help someone who happens to be disabled and can't use hand tools.

You Metalmolten man are out of line and I am glad someone with power, I assume, asked you to step down. I must say however that you are a coward for not revealing yourself. You have blatantly called Adam out, insulted him for simply stating the truth about his endorsers/friends which he truly holds close to his heart and would do anything for. He has been more than fair with the original poster and yet you dig dig dig and then when he finally has you cornered you play coward and are afraid to give your name? Why, are you admitting Adam may have some power in the industry? That maybe he was right all along in this thread? Or are you lying and maybe you aren't a tech at all ?? I'm sure you aren't lying and are merely protecting your job, although you honestly don't have to as Adam isn't that type of person. You sir should be ashamed of yourself and don't deserve to be in the industry. Enough said, I am going back to lurking..

oh, and I bet you didn't pay for those colossal cables, as you claimed earlier that you get free stuff from everyone. Would it be a far stretch to think Adam probably knows someone at Colossal and could easily figure out who you are? Just a thought..

 

[EXPcustom]

I got no dog in this fight but I love the thread title.

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

I have been asked to give it a rest as its not my issue and I will. I love being part of this community I am after all a GAS sufferer, not a debater. this place is after all supposed to be about fun.

we will run into each other Adam, I have seen you before, ill introduce myself next time and maybe well have a beer if you're up to it. this is getting to seem like its personal and that is just silly as we don't even know each other. there is no good reason for either of us to add more stress to our lives by bickering. we can just agree to disagree and get on with it.

I really do wish you luck, no matter my opinion of your product OR service. I will remain anonymous to you for now as i really don't need to hear "bad press" coming back to me , as we are already at odds I cant risk my lively hood over something as trivial as this.

transmission out..Im gonna go play with my new colossal cables and get a review up for you guys soon.

Looking forward to it... Come say hello next time you see me - be glad to buy you a beer!
Adam

 

[FloydUpgrades.com]

I have been asked to give it a rest as its not my issue and I will. I love being part of this community I am after all a GAS sufferer, not a debater. this place is after all supposed to be about fun.

we will run into each other Adam, I have seen you before, ill introduce myself next time and maybe well have a beer if you're up to it. this is getting to seem like its personal and that is just silly as we don't even know each other. there is no good reason for either of us to add more stress to our lives by bickering. we can just agree to disagree and get on with it.

I really do wish you luck, no matter my opinion of your product OR service. I will remain anonymous to you for now as i really don't need to hear "bad press" coming back to me , as we are already at odds I cant risk my lively hood over something as trivial as this.

transmission out..Im gonna go play with my new colossal cables and get a review up for you guys soon.

Hi, I am new to posting here but have been a lurker for years. I am a huge supporter of FU as well as I consider Adam to be a great friend, not to mention a incredible tech. As a matter of fact he drove to my studio(6hrs round trip) and installed not 1 but 4 blocks as well as all his upgrades without charging me a dime for the labor nor would he accept anything in return. He just wanted to help someone who happens to be disabled and can't use hand tools.

You Metalmolten man are out of line and I am glad someone with power, I assume, asked you to step down. I must say however that you are a coward for not revealing yourself. You have blatantly called Adam out, insulted him for simply stating the truth about his endorsers/friends which he truly holds close to his heart and would do anything for. He has been more than fair with the original poster and yet you dig dig dig and then when he finally has you cornered you play coward and are afraid to give your name? Why, are you admitting Adam may have some power in the industry? That maybe he was right all along in this thread? Or are you lying and maybe you aren't a tech at all ?? I'm sure you aren't lying and are merely protecting your job, although you honestly don't have to as Adam isn't that type of person. You sir should be ashamed of yourself and don't deserve to be in the industry. Enough said, I am going back to lurking..

oh, and I bet you didn't pay for those colossal cables, as you claimed earlier that you get free stuff from everyone. Would it be a far stretch to think Adam probably knows someone at Colossal and could easily figure out who you are? Just a thought..

Thanks Bro!
It was my pleasure! I had a blast at your studio as too - great place and well worth the ride. Need to schedule another visit soon - you will love the new brass claws. As usual - I am happy to do the installs for you!
You rock!
Adam
http://www.FloydUpgrades.com

 

[moltenmetalburn]

I have been asked to give it a rest as its not my issue and I will. I love being part of this community I am after all a GAS sufferer, not a debater. this place is after all supposed to be about fun.

we will run into each other Adam, I have seen you before, ill introduce myself next time and maybe well have a beer if you're up to it. this is getting to seem like its personal and that is just silly as we don't even know each other. there is no good reason for either of us to add more stress to our lives by bickering. we can just agree to disagree and get on with it.

I really do wish you luck, no matter my opinion of your product OR service. I will remain anonymous to you for now as i really don't need to hear "bad press" coming back to me , as we are already at odds I cant risk my lively hood over something as trivial as this.

transmission out..Im gonna go play with my new colossal cables and get a review up for you guys soon.

Hi, I am new to posting here but have been a lurker for years. I am a huge supporter of FU as well as I consider Adam to be a great friend, not to mention a incredible tech. As a matter of fact he drove to my studio(6hrs round trip) and installed not 1 but 4 blocks as well as all his upgrades without charging me a dime for the labor nor would he accept anything in return. He just wanted to help someone who happens to be disabled and can't use hand tools.

You Metalmolten man are out of line and I am glad someone with power, I assume, asked you to step down. I must say however that you are a coward for not revealing yourself. You have blatantly called Adam out, insulted him for simply stating the truth about his endorsers/friends which he truly holds close to his heart and would do anything for. He has been more than fair with the original poster and yet you dig dig dig and then when he finally has you cornered you play coward and are afraid to give your name? Why, are you admitting Adam may have some power in the industry? That maybe he was right all along in this thread? Or are you lying and maybe you aren't a tech at all ?? I'm sure you aren't lying and are merely protecting your job, although you honestly don't have to as Adam isn't that type of person. You sir should be ashamed of yourself and don't deserve to be in the industry. Enough said, I am going back to lurking..

oh, and I bet you didn't pay for those colossal cables, as you claimed earlier that you get free stuff from everyone. Would it be a far stretch to think Adam probably knows someone at Colossal and could easily figure out who you are? Just a thought..

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion of this thread and my posts, you have shared yours.

call me names, insult me, it has no bearing on my life whatsoever, if it somehow makes you feel better continue. Its really at no expense to me. IMO it comes at expense to you. I will not resort to name calling . You actually signed up for our forum in order to attack me AFTER I have chosen to bow out... If you were here to solely support Adam you could have just posted your awesome customer service experience story with him.

I find it a very nice gesture for Adam to help you out as you couldn't take on the task yourself. I don't actually remember claiming Adam was a heartless jerk...

I do remember asking real questions about his product. that went without answers. but if I elaborate more on that then id be sucking Adam back in and starting the cycle over again which I am trying to avoid. I want to move on permanently.

If you read the posts above yours a forum member publicly asked me to "give it a rest", as I respect the community and its members here, I have. I am not trying to become at odds with everyone at my favorite place because of my conflicting opinion over a product/service. Why would you assume freedom of speech doesn't apply here on this forum?

you claim he has been more than fair to jazzer, I disagree. oh well, we have different points of view/opinions.

I have never claimed Adam to be "no one" or "powerless" in the industry. I have also never claimed Adam to be a substandard tech. I have no idea. If the pros let him work on their instruments he must be competent at the least.

cornered?
I gave up when I realized i was feeling REAL frustration over something trivial and impersonal to me. Stress is a killer and this isn't worth it, after all its is not even my block, mine came from KGC. I have never felt cornered.

I should be ashamed of myself?
for pressing hard, maybe even too hard, for answers to legitimate questions? if you were at the Mercedes dealership and asked if the vehicle had been tested for safety would "ask the people driving it" as an answer be sufficient to you? or would that seem very dismissive? would you then want to help that salesman make his commission by buying from him?

I don't deserve to be in the industry? for having my own opinion that happens to be opposite yours or even every other person that has a wonderful opinion of Adams products and services? I thought it was my skill that earns me the work I get, Not my bubbling personality OR harshly opinionated nature.
It seems to me you have a personal relationship with Adam and that makes your stake in all this personal. mine is not so its easier for me to see it from the outside perspective.

I claimed that all of MY endorsements were free, not that I receive free stuff from "everyone".

I don't know Adam personally therefore I cannot blindly trust him when my lively hood is at stake. simple as that. If that makes me a coward in your eyes, so be it. i am protecting myself and my family.

my colossal cables were paid for in full, they were a gift to me in fact from a loved one if you must know. Great Birthday this year!

If i have been totally at fault the entire time Karma will get me and I will hopefully learn a lesson. Be satisfied.

Now I ask YOU to give it a rest as I'd like to get past this thread immediately and get back to my gear obsession.

 

[Gainiac]

Hey Jazzer do you have the tracking info or any proof for the block you state you returned?


"Here we only have one guy who says his block was damaged (I doubt it – but I will play along) – DID NOT send it back – DID get a refund AND is getting another block."

didn't he originally say he already sent TWO replacements? yup...

"I sent 2 replacements… I get the feeling you are looking for a third. "
"The 2 replacements were at my cost – is that direct?"

you can all continue to be judge, jury and lynch mob

my questions for the floor
1) if the block was not damaged, and Adam now doubts that to be true
what about this picture I sent at the time of the enquiry asking if this was a common problem?

2)If i did not send it back, why was another block allegedly sent out? and another?

3) If I did not send it back, why has it taken until now for Adam to make that claim?

4) If I did not send it back, what is this receipt for a 0.219kg package really for?

5) why do we keep talking about the refund I got and omit to mention it was 30% short?
such details are important.

Oh, God no... Please tell me this photo isnt the 'raised ridge that prevents resonance".... no... say it isnt so... Please....