Guitar Seller's Remorse

[glpg80]

ah when you said wolfgangs i thought you meant the fender wolf gangs and not the peavey wolfgangs.

too... many.. wolfgangs...

right so i propose we call peaveys PWG and fenders FWG.

i did not know that about the PWG's

is the seymour duncan connection maybe due to the one of the custom shop duncans claim to be basically the pickup seymour wound for eddie years back in the late 70's? which he then didn't use?

possibly, i think it has something to do with how much money SD offered eddie to sign with them instead of dimarzio, and also had something to do with eddie tone chasing like he always does.

FWIW i have heard the new modern EVH pickup and it kicks major ass, i want one for my incoming guitar

and yes, i compared a tone zone and air norton back to back with a wolfgangs and much preferred the bridge pickup of a wolfgang and also the neck position of a wolfgang - the norton was a very close pickup to the PWG - but it was still voiced slightly different - it had a frequency emphasis that balances better in that air norton type of hollow tone which you could tell back to back.

the bridge of the wolfgang was a clear winner. if only they made PWG pickups in all black. im debating getting some paint and krylon, or like i mentioned a second ago, getting an EVH modern pickup. they both sound astounding

 

[Anonymous]

I had a nice tea-colored burst Gibson Historic LP R8 with Duncan Antiquities that I made a horrible trade for. Stupidest thing I've ever done and I really wish I could take that one back. Honestly, not because I loved the R8 so much, but the value I got for it was really, really bad due to what I traded for being at the peak of the market for it at that time...

Steve

 

[tekbow]

the axis pickups aren't tonezone and air norton though, although i believe they were a starting point or at least similar (can't remember what came first). but yeah the PWG pickups definitely had more grunt and bottom end than the axis from what i remember. then again there was way more wood in the PWG, the axis is a compact guitar, the PWG isn't.

fuck i miss it, what are clean PWGs going for at the minute?

another thing too, the shape of the axis is such that i think you have to play it in a certain way. like the neck sits out farther because the body seem to hang farther left, whereas the PWG settles into you more like a les paul.

 

[TeleBlaster]

Peavey USA Wolfgangs were my stage guitar.
I went through an evolution of pickups.
Stock to Air Zone / Tone Zone, finally to BK Nailbomb / Cold Sweat.
When Peavey replaced them with the HP Special, I got a couple to check out but I returned them because they sucked in comparison.
I was very surprised and disappointed because Peavey had been very good to me both with the PWG's and 5150's.
I began to pick up a few here and there and quickly found out the older years USA PWG's are much better than the latter years.
Also it can be kind of a crap shoot as there is a lot of hammered crap out there, you have to be very careful.
Good clean ones are getting harder and harder to find and start around 2K last time I bought one.
So I went on a bit of an oddysey looking for a mainstay line of guitars and got a very expensive education along the way!
FWIW I ended up taking my tech's advice and building parts-o-casters. We can put together a better guitar than most of what you can buy today.
Not saying that to flame any manufacturer or make myself seem great, just have had my eyes opened when it comes to a name on a headstock.
Anyways, I kept my two best Wolfies. Both need frets whenever I get the time...

 

[tekbow]

Peavey USA Wolfgangs were my stage guitar.
I went through an evolution of pickups.
Stock to Air Zone / Tone Zone, finally to BK Nailbomb / Cold Sweat.

weird you say that, i keep hearing that BKP combo being mentioned for Wolfgang/axis guitars, guys on the BKP forum suggested that as a replacement for the axis pickups

 

[Chubtone]

possibly, i think it has something to do with how much money SD offered eddie to sign with them instead of dimarzio, and also had something to do with eddie tone chasing like he always does.

Eddie is not signed with Seymour Duncan and they didn't offer him any money to sign with them. He is not a Seymour Duncan artist. EVH brand through Fender has hired Seymour Duncan to build the EVH Frankenstein pickup for Eddie to his specs. That's it. It's not labeled as a Seymour Duncan product anywhere on it. Where's this stuff come from?

 

[Mailman1971]

I owned hundreds of guitars thru the years. Got out of playing and was strictly collecting for about 10 years. One that stands out was a Original San Dimas Skull and Blood Demartini guitar. Had a Floyd added to it after it was built by Charvel since there was some ordeal that only Kramers could have Floyds 'factory' at the time. Anyhow....sold it off for $1200 to a big Charvel collector. Its still on the Charvel forum.
I go look and drool on it once in a while!

Oh well.........its only gear.

 

[glpg80]

hired Seymour Duncan to build the EVH Frankenstein pickup for Eddie to his specs. That's it. It's not labeled as a Seymour Duncan product anywhere on it.

im not talking about the frankenstein pickup. i could care less about that model, im talking about the wolfgang series pickups. if the history of the wolfgang revolves around dimarzio design, why would any company choose otherwise other than to eddie's specs?

i cant have a fucking opinion on a forum?

and dimarzio wasnt stamped on the peavey wolfgang pickups either or EBMM pickups for that matter. that still doesnt draw any facts of care.

where do these people come from?

 

[tehuk]

hired Seymour Duncan to build the EVH Frankenstein pickup for Eddie to his specs. That's it. It's not labeled as a Seymour Duncan product anywhere on it.

im not talking about the frankenstein pickup. i could care less about that model, im talking about the wolfgang series pickups. if the history of the wolfgang revolves around dimarzio design, why would any company choose otherwise other than to eddie's specs?

i cant have a fucking opinion on a forum?

and dimarzio wasnt stamped on the peavey wolfgang pickups either or EBMM pickups for that matter. that still doesnt draw any facts of care.

where do these people come from?

Actually, the Fender Wolfgang pickups are made in house. Eddie stated in a Guitar World interview that he commissioned both Dimarzio and Seymour Duncan pickups but didn't like either so he decided on the prototypes Fender made.

This is the issue:

 

[TeleBlaster]

What the heck is that trem??!?! A Floyd-Bigsby?

 

[rsm]

Late '60s Rickenbacker 4001 in jetglo, checkerboard binding, all original, all pieces there, including the case.

biggest dumbass gear move I ever made. I dig my 4003, but the vintage 4001

 

[LRStrat]

I had a 83 Gibson Explorer that I traded for a strat back in 87. I still miss that guitar. I had a Kayler type tremolo but it was stamped with Gibson and under the was stamped pat pending. Really nice playing & sounding guitar. Damn Eric Johnson, I seen him live and the next day I had to have a strat.

 

[Iceman8.6]

Heres a very early EBMM EVH # 80211 that got badly damaged in a flood

and heres the pups from the EVH..they do have Dimarzio stamped on them----------------------->

 

[Philo Beddoe]

Had a Hamer Standard many moons ago that I foolishly sold

 

[nevusofota]

the axis pickups aren't tonezone and air norton though, although i believe they were a starting point or at least similar (can't remember what came first). but yeah the PWG pickups definitely had more grunt and bottom end than the axis from what i remember. then again there was way more wood in the PWG, the axis is a compact guitar, the PWG isn't.

fuck i miss it, what are clean PWGs going for at the minute?

another thing too, the shape of the axis is such that i think you have to play it in a certain way. like the neck sits out farther because the body seem to hang farther left, whereas the PWG settles into you more like a les paul.

FWIW, I called Ernie Ball a few years back to get some info on the Axis pickups. A pretty knowledgable technician told me that they were almost identical to the Dimarzio Tone Zone.

 

[tekbow]

the axis pickups aren't tonezone and air norton though, although i believe they were a starting point or at least similar (can't remember what came first). but yeah the PWG pickups definitely had more grunt and bottom end than the axis from what i remember. then again there was way more wood in the PWG, the axis is a compact guitar, the PWG isn't.

fuck i miss it, what are clean PWGs going for at the minute?

another thing too, the shape of the axis is such that i think you have to play it in a certain way. like the neck sits out farther because the body seem to hang farther left, whereas the PWG settles into you more like a les paul.

FWIW, I called Ernie Ball a few years back to get some info on the Axis pickups. A pretty knowledgable technician told me that they were almost identical to the Dimarzio Tone Zone.

there's a lot of confusion on this one, so i googled something like tonezone vs axis pickups and found a bunch of old threads over the years on places like the musicman forums etc.

techs have said what the guy you spoke to said, and completely the opposite. players are saying that while they're kinda similar, the tonezone is higher gain and fatter and less open, some say they're not even close.

nobody has said they sound the same though

the most interesting one i found was on the bareknuckle forums from a few years ago. tim had apparently done rewinds on a few EVH/AXIS dimarzios and said they were really weird, tthe construction was completely different than the tonezone and just odd in general

 

[nevusofota]

the axis pickups aren't tonezone and air norton though, although i believe they were a starting point or at least similar (can't remember what came first). but yeah the PWG pickups definitely had more grunt and bottom end than the axis from what i remember. then again there was way more wood in the PWG, the axis is a compact guitar, the PWG isn't.

fuck i miss it, what are clean PWGs going for at the minute?

another thing too, the shape of the axis is such that i think you have to play it in a certain way. like the neck sits out farther because the body seem to hang farther left, whereas the PWG settles into you more like a les paul.

FWIW, I called Ernie Ball a few years back to get some info on the Axis pickups. A pretty knowledgable technician told me that they were almost identical to the Dimarzio Tone Zone.

there's a lot of confusion on this one, so i googled something like tonezone vs axis pickups and found a bunch of old threads over the years on places like the musicman forums etc.

techs have said what the guy you spoke to said, and completely the opposite. players are saying that while they're kinda similar, the tonezone is higher gain and fatter and less open, some say they're not even close.

nobody has said they sound the same though

the most interesting one i found was on the bareknuckle forums from a few years ago. tim had apparently done rewinds on a few EVH/AXIS dimarzios and said they were really weird, tthe construction was completely different than the tonezone and just odd in general

Very interesting. I am in the camp that feel that they do not sound the same in all respects, but only in a few characteristics.

 

[tekbow]

http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/i ... opic=510.0

there's the link (been trying to find it, worried i imagined it). right down around june 14

 

[Neeklaus]

my Ibanez RGT42DXFX first "nice" guitar...neck thru, sexy flat black paint job, had a set of emgs in there and it was a magical axe. unfortunately I was going through a period that I was trying to play bass and traded it for a nice bass....

if i end up selling/trading my Gibson Les Paul BFG i'm sure I'll be posting about it too