Hetfield is a talentless low IQ prick

[lester]

I was with you till "fuck the Jews." Nah brah. Fuck Israel. Not the same.

Sorry, let me be a little more specific, fuck the Jewish government elite that control that country. Most of the Jews that live there disagree with that shit that's going on and Benjamin Netanyahu, who pretty much resembles the devil incarnate.
So let me state clearly. Fuck the Zionist Jews. Who Trump happens to be in bed with, fucking sell out

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[Shevek]

No I saw him on a solo stuff too when he had Doyle Bramhall in the band and Snowy White. Sold out

Yes, but did he play mostly Pink Floyd music or his solo stuff?

 

[DanTravis62]

Look, I like the Gilmour fronted years as I've already stated. You're arguing with a point I am not making. But to claim that Waters wasn't the driving force behind the band during the 70s is simply wrong. It's a literal fact that the band wouldn't have existed without Waters driving the ship to carry on after Syd lost it. The other guys were ready to pack it in.

"Driving force"

You are just creating euphemisms to cover up the fact that he couldn't sing or play the bass at this point

 

[Shevek]

@DanTravis62 this is what I mean by "driving force"

Yes, Roger Waters was Pink Floyd's main lyricist and conceptual leader from 1968 until he left the band in 1985.
• Early Years: In the band's earliest phase (1965–1968), original frontman Syd Barrett was the primary songwriter.
• Taking Control: After Barrett's departure in 1968 due to mental health struggles, Waters stepped up as the principal lyricist and dominant creative force.
• Classic Concept Albums: Waters wrote all the lyrics for The Dark Side of the Moon (1973), and drove the concepts and writing for [Wish You Were Here](wikipedia.org Here) (1975), Animals (1977), and The Wall (1979).
• Musical Collaboration: While Waters wrote the vast majority of the lyrics and conceptual frameworks, the band's music was heavily shaped through collaboration with guitarist David Gilmour, keyboardist Richard Wright, and drummer Nick Mason.

 

[Shevek]

Sorry, let me be a little more specific, fuck the Jewish government elite that control that country. Most of the Jews that live there disagree with that shit that's going on and Benjamin Netanyahu, who pretty much resembles the devil reincarnate.
So let me state clearly. Fuck the Zionist Jews. Who Trump happens to be in bed with, fucking sell out

On that I can agree.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Huh? Are you fucking nuts?

Primary lyricist. I think he wrote the music for two songs on DSOTM.

 

[lester]

Yes, but did he play mostly Pink Floyd music or his solo stuff?

It was a pretty lopsided on that sense, I mean he did all the stuff that he wrote with Pink Floyd, you know Mother and Dogs and Sheep and all that great stuff, the great Floyd stuff that he wrote. Then he did pretty much all the choice songs from Amused to Death.

* Let me take that back, he did miss that three-parter of What God Wants from that album which is so fantastic. He didn't do that at all. Huh

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[DanTravis62]

Yes, Roger Waters was Pink Floyd's main lyricist and conceptual leader from 1968 until he left the band in 1985.
• Early Years: In the band's earliest phase (1965–1968), original frontman Syd Barrett was the primary songwriter.
• Taking Control: After Barrett's departure in 1968 due to mental health struggles, Waters stepped up as the principal lyricist and dominant creative force.
• Classic Concept Albums: Waters wrote all the lyrics for The Dark Side of the Moon (1973), and drove the concepts and writing for [Wish You Were Here](wikipedia.org Here) (1975), Animals (1977), and The Wall (1979).
• Musical Collaboration: While Waters wrote the vast majority of the lyrics and conceptual frameworks, the band's music was heavily shaped through collaboration with guitarist David Gilmour, keyboardist Richard Wright, and drummer Nick Mason.

Crazy how the "driving force" couldn't have any success whatsoever without the rest of the band. For such a transcendent genius that seems like a wild coincidence. Especially considering how the rest of the band kept on having platinum selling, commercially successful records without him.

I guess Roger just gave them the "midas touch" of his transcendent genius, and they continued using his inspired lyrical genius ideas without him.

 

[Floyd Eye]

Look, I like the Gilmour fronted years as I've already stated. You're arguing with a point I am not making. But to claim that Waters wasn't the driving force behind the band during the 70s is simply wrong. It's a literal fact that the band wouldn't have existed without Waters driving the ship to carry on after Syd lost it. The other guys were ready to pack it in.

I don’t care for much of the Gilmour fronted stuff.

 

[Floyd Eye]

It was a pretty lopsided on that sense, I mean he did all the stuff that he wrote with Pink Floyd, you know Mother and Dogs and Sheep and all that great stuff. The great Floyd stuff that he wrote. Then he did pretty much all the choice songs from Amused to Death.

I think Waters is underrated at acoustic guitar chord arrangements and seriously over rated as a bass player.

 

[Shevek]

I

Primary lyricist. I think he wrote the music for two songs on DSOTM.

I remember reading an interview with Gilmour where he describes the writing sessions for DSOTM as "hours of aimless jamming on E minor and A7" until Roger kind of cracked the whip and added some structure to the songs.

I don’t care for much of the Gilmour fronted stuff.

Fair enough. I never used to like it much either but it's grown on me.

 

[lester]

@DanTravis62 this is what I mean by "driving force"

Yes, Roger Waters was Pink Floyd's main lyricist and conceptual leader from 1968 until he left the band in 1985.
• Early Years: In the band's earliest phase (1965–1968), original frontman Syd Barrett was the primary songwriter.
• Taking Control: After Barrett's departure in 1968 due to mental health struggles, Waters stepped up as the principal lyricist and dominant creative force.
• Classic Concept Albums: Waters wrote all the lyrics for The Dark Side of the Moon (1973), and drove the concepts and writing for [Wish You Were Here](wikipedia.org Here) (1975), Animals (1977), and The Wall (1979).
• Musical Collaboration: While Waters wrote the vast majority of the lyrics and conceptual frameworks, the band's music was heavily shaped through collaboration with guitarist David Gilmour, keyboardist Richard Wright, and drummer Nick Mason.

They left out a bit. He completely dominated and wrote everything on the album Final Cut, which was when David and him had a falling out because Roger would not budge, this was his band and he's going to do it the way he wants to do to and there's no input needed or wanted from anybody so that was untenable for Gilmour.
Now how it goes from that to owning the Pink Floyd name through litigation is beyond me. I mean he was even withholding some of the stage props that Roger had to sue to get back which he did, but that's how ridiculous it was.
Rodger wanted that name because it was his band, it's integrity, but as far as the money is concerned, he don't need the money that's for sure

 

[VonBonfire]

For example can you name a good Jimmy Page song post-Led Zeppelin?

I can't name a good Jimmy Page song during Led Zeppelin.

 

[lester]

I think Waters is underrated at acoustic guitar chord arrangements and seriously over rated as a bass player.

I don't think anybody's ever rated him at all as a bass player. He just holds down the bottom, he's not trying to do amazing stuff on the bass while he's singing or not, that's not his style. That's the style that worked for Pink Floyd

 

[Floyd Eye]

I don't think anybody's ever rated him at all as a bass player. He just holds down the bottom, he's not trying to do amazing stuff on the bass while he's singing or not, that's not his style. That's the style that worked for Pink Floyd

He doesn’t even do that. Those shows of his you saw, did you miss the other guy on the stage with a bass in his hands ? HE was holding down the bottom.

 

[tricalibur]

All these things can be true simultaneously. The hypocrisy is more annoying than the motive itself

 

[Floyd Eye]

I can't name a good Jimmy Page song during Led Zeppelin.

Yeah we know. Zeppelin sucked. Beatles sucked. Floyd sucked.

 

[Shevek]

Crazy how the "driving force" couldn't have any success whatsoever without the rest of the band. For such a transcendent genius that seems like a wild coincidence. Especially considering how the rest of the band kept on having platinum selling, commercially successful records without him.

I guess Roger just gave them the "midas touch" of his transcendent genius, and they continued using his inspired lyrical genius ideas without him.

You're just using commercial success as a metric when you know that's not a good measure of artistic success. There are plenty of folks out there who would consider Amused to Death a masterpiece and Division Bell to be warmed up garbage.

 

[Floyd Eye]

They left out a bit. He completely dominated and wrote everything on the album Final Cut, which was when David and him had a falling out because Roger would not budge, this was his band and he's going to do it the way he wants to do to and there's no input needed or wanted from anybody so that was untenable for Gilmour.
Now how it goes from that to owning the Pink Floyd name through litigation is beyond me. I mean he was even withholding some of the stage props that Roger had to sue to get back which he did, but that's how ridiculous it was.
Rodger wanted that name because it was his band, it's integrity, but as far as the money is concerned, he don't need the money that's for sure

Final Cut ? Jesus dude. That fucking album sucks so bad it’s not funny.

 

[Shevek]

I can't name a good Jimmy Page song during Led Zeppelin.

I knew someone would say that and I thought it would be you