How would you go about this?

[Mailman1971]

Someone mention casual dress???


I like to dress up a bit on Sunday.

 

[maddnotez]

This is gonna be a great band. Even have the right look. Banana Hammock, Sock, Daisy Dukes.

Sorry OP we're pretty much taking over your band and you need your own costume.

 

[Thunkful]

Find people that have same goals and interests in music than you.

Great minds think alike!

 

[Bob Savage]

So, here’s the thing... I’m the kind of person who must be in charge of the band. I’m not willing to join someone else’s established band and fall in line. I must have it my way. Think what you will of my attitude, but that’s how it is. That’s not what I’m asking you to evaluate here.

Now, with this in mind, I’m likely soon going to start my own original band and hire all of the other members, paying them a salary. I will be able to do this because I have a lot of money coming to me this year from a current entrepreneurial venture that I’m on.

So, if you hire members (and I mean members, not merely “hired guns”), how much would you expect to have to pay them? How would you set things up so that you hire the right people, they get taken care of, and you don’t go broke in the process? In the beginning, their pay will have to come out of my pocket, but I’m willing to do it to get my way. Later on I suppose theyly will be getting paid a portion of what the band earns.

It sounds like you're trying to have complete control, offer payment for services so there are no complaints about lack of collaboration, but also calling them members for whatever reason (first thing that comes to mind is so you can pay them less than a "hired gun.").

Agreements with "hired guns" that they'll maybe get some of a bands earnings at some point probably isn't a lot of incentive either.

Do you have material? If not, my suggestion would be while you're really thinking through this, that you're building a library of tunes. If you write good tunes and can produce them well, it could be more tempting for good,reliable players to make a commitment, at least for a somewhat reasonable term.

Without something more than some small amount of pay to offer, considering you want complete control, you'll end up with short timers who probably don't really care much about your project.

That's my initial thought without having read what others may have responded with or your clarifications if you've posted any.

 

[Bob Savage]

Just did some speed reading through the thread. You're not on a path that really has a chance for success and I think you're missing some key information along the way.

Sure, Mustaine can hire and fire who he wants. Were you a founding member of Metallica and then the sole founder of Megadeth? Ringo Starr has this same ability.

You keep referring to "band" but that's really not what you're describing.

Best of luck.

 

[skullfxr]

Someone mention casual dress???


I like to dress up a bit on Sunday.

Nice skirt. I happen to prefer g-strings though. Or a skirt. But then I go commando. ?

 

[romanianreaper]

Good to see you Zachman. Were ya been?

All this time and you decide to post in this thread

BTW - do you know errrrl (aka Faka)?

I don't know if Zachman knows Errrl but I should as hell know Zachman. That bastard is the reason I have a guitar buying problem. LOL! I used to go visit him at a guitar store he was running with my friend Carlos and we would sit around talking about tone and gear. Hell of a guy! Zach, hope you are well brah!!

 

[skullfxr]

@MonsterTone, this is straight fail. It just won't work. You will also need that money for your "hired" girlfriend, put the focus there. I don't know what you do for money, but you make it seem like a lot. Go find a psychologist. Getting your head screwed back on right will do you better than hired guns and a hooker.

 

[Mailman1971]

Needing Someone to mow my lawn...
Not sure fellas. Hot... sunny..
What ya think ??!!
No I’m not a troll!! Ask my mommy and daddy!!

 

[PeteLaramee]

I've been down this road for my side projects (now my main project) and I definitely consider the other musicians as hired guns although most are friends. Also my wife is a singer and my brother is a drummer so I usually don't have to pay. Once I hired a relatively big named keyboard player for one song and paid out the ass so it can vary.

I write, arrange demos in guitar pro, and then record in my basement studio. Besides my brother playing on all the songs I usaully spread out the tracks to different friends so it's less of a burden on them. I haven't played out in a while, but when I did I gave the complete take from the shows to the band. When I whored myself out for other bands I usually got $200 for a full gig or a cut of the door...depending on how much I liked the music. I have played for free for friends' bands and/or if I really dug the music. If I had to play a Madonna song I charged full price. LOL

You can find a ton of musicians on "musicians databass" or "gigsalad," etc or even craigslist. For recording you can find players who charge by the hour or by the song. I wouldn't even start looking for musicians until you have a full cd or demo written.

 

[Goat]

Back in 1994, I released a diarrhea fart during a Concrete Blond meet-n-greet. The girl that was standing in front of me, puked! Good times.

 

[Bob Savage]

Back in 1994, I released a diarrhea fart during a Concrete Blond meet-n-greet. The girl that was standing in front of me, puked! Good times.

... at a Concrete Blonde meet and greet.

 

[Goat]

Back in 1994, I released a diarrhea fart during a Concrete Blond meet-n-greet. The girl that was standing in front of me, puked! Good times.

... at a Concrete Blonde meet and greet.

Crazy, I know. The girl in front of me didn't actually puke, but she did dry-heave. It was one of those moments where you hope to god it's not going to stink... Bad call! Luckily, I wasn't close enough for Johnette to catch a whiff.

 

[BSRIAudio]

The situation you are describing very rarely results in a salary for each member unless you need the people to write music for you and VERY few people will want to get involved in a vanity project like that. Its just not worthwhile for anyone to take a job where they have to write music with strangers and where all the music needs to adhere to the exact taste of a boss character who cant play the instruments. Its a fools errand for the musicians and a waste of money for you. Find something else that makes you feel special and cool. Its the money angle that will put you in league with people who will want nothing to do with you. You would actually do better not involving money and finding people you click with to make music and build the band. Musicians good enough to do what you're asking generally have other options that are much less work for the same or better money.

A more realistic situation is you have an album recorded and you're ready to tour. Then you pay musicians a day rate to rehearse for 2-3 days and then tour for a couple weeks. Then you stop paying them until the next tour. If they're still available then you repeat the process. No band like this has musicians that get paid a salary like a normal job. This is short term day rate work performed by contract musicians.

 

[rottingcorpse]

You would actually do better not involving money and finding people you click with to make music and build the band.

It would appear to me that money is the only way he can get anyone to deal with him.

If he had scary bad ass talent and was a great song writer WITH SOME SOCIAL SKILLS,he would not have any problems whatsoever. And if he had ANY social skills at all he wouldn't have started a thread in off topic about paying for a professional girlfriend because he can't seem to get laid.

Just my opinion. WTF do I know? Maybe obvious troll is obvious...

 

[Goat]

Social skills... That's were it's at!

 

[Fret-Shredder]

Nice try Mr. Malmsteen. Heres all you gotta do. Stop producing and mixing your music and plead with Goran Edman to come back and sing for you. You do all that and everything else will fall in line.