spirit7
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Metallica have not released anything good since 1988.
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blackba
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For me the only Metallica Album I really dislike is St. Anger. I actually thought Load and reload were decent. I started on the Black album though, so I am sure that affected my view. My favorite album by far is still Puppets. I have heard death magnetic twice and liked it, but haven't picked it up yet.
mboogman
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Was just listening to those a few days ago. Bad Seed is a pretty darned heavy song, and has been one of favorites from that era as long as I can remember.
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Not even close to being some of my fave Metallica albums. With that said, I still like many of the songs on them.
Motorpud
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There were a few good songs on Load and Reload but most of them sucked IMO. That is really where everything started going south.
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animusofabbas":3hhj6e0e said:
Not the case for me. I saw them in Ft. Worth during the filming of the "Cunning Stunts" dvd, and it sounded pretty good...especially when playing the old shit. Although, Kirk's solos were barely audible during the concert, which might have been a blessing in disguise.
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spirit7":17ro5lm3 said:
Agreed. ...And Justice For All was the last Metallica album worth owning.
Les Zombie
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i like load and reload.
crankyrayhanky
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I strongly dislike Load/Reload, most of 90s Metallica and every one of those Unforgivens
Cool metal vocalist/lyricist; horrible rock vocalist/lyicist
The only thing worse than that material is hearing the local Metallica wanna be bands that copy that Load era...uggghh
I actually like St Anger and DMagnetic is way cooler than anything I've heard from them in 20 years
Cool metal vocalist/lyricist; horrible rock vocalist/lyicist
The only thing worse than that material is hearing the local Metallica wanna be bands that copy that Load era...uggghh
I actually like St Anger and DMagnetic is way cooler than anything I've heard from them in 20 years
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I haven't intentionally listened to them in a very long time. I really wanted to catch one of the Fillmore dates for posterity. i would have treasured that experience seeing them up there with all those people. I'm very much of the opinion that their best days are behind them. Considering I have never seen them live, I really feel the urge to do it as I can't imagine they have much mileage left. Sucks that it will have to be with that douchebag crab walker Rob instead of Cliff or even Jason. They should make that guy play behind a wall.
Load and Reload were complete garbage IMO. Watered down Black Album material. How can Unforgiven II be considered creative?
Load and Reload were complete garbage IMO. Watered down Black Album material. How can Unforgiven II be considered creative?
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Mr. Burton":1ddvd4nt said:
ACShreds
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Its funny because i was born in 1990 so the metallica that i grew up with was the Load/Reload metallica and the bluesy heavy metal sound they had has always been the metallica that i was familiar with and loved.
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Just ordered tickets and will be seeing Big Mac again in Nurnburg, Germany June 1-3, along with Soundgarden and loads of other bands.
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I've been listening to Load/Reload a fair bit lately and think they are great albums. Just WAY different then anything else they had put out.
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Joeytpg":yjev9z5w said:
I've always loved this song, one of my favourites from ReLoad and probably one of my favourites of all Metallica.
And also I've always liked ReLoad heaps more than Load. I do enjoy Load but could never really gel with it, ever. ReLoad does have some filler material but overall I think it has a tougher & heavier sound compared to Load. It's like it has an outlaw attitude, whereas Load feels 'spent', so to speak. Haha it's all in a name
I should do a cover of Carpe Deim Baby someday......
edit: I've just done some thinking. I first heard Metallica when I was about 13. We were on the school bus going home and were bored stiff with shitty AM radio, some a bloke from an older grade brought a tape that had some songs from Metallica (Black Album). I had never heard it before, it sounded really mysterious to me. A few weeks later ReLoad was released (late 1997), so we heard that on a tape on the bus too. It was cool, I was really enjoying the songs and that "tough" sound resonated with me a lot. The thing is though I was telling a friend of mine at school about it and he referred me to try out his copy of Ride the Lightning. I borrowed it and felt electric when I heard those songs! And at the time I had no idea that the album was from the mid-1980s and they had long hair at the time etc. Ride the Lightning became my most favourite album even after getting right into all the other stuff, but ReLoad is still pretty special to me. Not because I heard it when I was young, just that it has a really good sound and is unique, as well as that tough sound but with a swagger.
It's funny that I don't get that nostalgic vibe of their older stuff being "classic, old school metal". Even with Kill 'em All. I listen to it now and still get a feeling that I'm hearing a brand new wild mad fast metal band bashing out loud noise in their garage.
But funnily though I do get that 'retro' vibe when I hear Metallica (Black Album), it just seems so stuck in 1990-1991: basically the 80s culminated & perfected. And also Load seems a bit retro too (in a bad way), like it's stuck in the mid-1990s when bands either went even more full-on and off the scale (or became nu-metal which was basically 80s goth kids becoming sooky brats before turning into proto-emo-screamo), or got hungover and lazy after the madness of the 1980s and just swaggered about thinking they're playing the blues but it's just soft-cock-rock (e.g. Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, Hootie & The Blowfish).
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Personally i think Metallica died back at the Black Album. All the albums that came after would have been much better received if they didn't try so hard to have a different image and play off the popular trend and, instead, just came straight out and said they want to write more rock style tunes. That they felt they took the metal style songs as far as they can go.
No one really bought into that silly fur and boa wearing, makeup and eyeliner, "oh i'm so depressed" type bullshit they tried to pull back with Load and Reload. It was fake and everyone knew it.
I just think that if they dropped the gimmick and were more open about wanting to change, everyone would have a much different opinion about Metallica now.
No one really bought into that silly fur and boa wearing, makeup and eyeliner, "oh i'm so depressed" type bullshit they tried to pull back with Load and Reload. It was fake and everyone knew it.
I just think that if they dropped the gimmick and were more open about wanting to change, everyone would have a much different opinion about Metallica now.
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Soundguy213":84jq5kjp said:
Exactly! It seems that a few people are too young here to realise it, but the Black album was a big sell out. They are completely lost ever since. Metallica, and the whole thrash movement in the 80's, was about being rebellious, anti-disco etc. I remember James saying "kill the posers", "f*ck the music business" and stuff like that. Guess what, load/reload are the ultimate poser albums! Go figure. I wish them all the money in the world, but as a fan from the first hours, I really can't see how you would like load/reload and would be into the old-school period as well. And yes, we were short sighted back in the day, haha.
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Laurens":2ppq7gja said:
Because I like all sorts of metal/rock. Justice was my introduction to Metallica, and the black album is very middle-of-the-pack for me as far as which albums I like the most. That doesn't mean I don't like some of the newer stuff, though.
I also love Led Zeppelin and really like As I Lay Dying. How the heck do I manage to like such different styles of music like that? The mind boggles!
Really though, arguing about Metallica is like trying to cram feces back into your asshole. You're never gonna make any progress, and you just waste your time handling shit.
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Skrapmetal":tqvzt6gm said:
Good one
And for the record, I do love other bands and styles of music but Metallica is the only one that managed to develop a love/hate relationship with me (besides my in-laws, haha).
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Laurens":14ylv1ey said:
Well if anything, all that silly feather boa stuff in the 90s was just a rebellion against the hardcore 80s thrash fans that are stuck in the 1980s. Metallica just do whatever the fuck they want, even against their own kind. Just because a band may start off in a particular musical genre, doesn't mean they have to stay in that musical genre. Good music is not defined by a particular genre.
Limiting yourself to please your audience is bullshit- that is selling out.