Quick PT100 prototype video

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petethorn":3gqbcxx0 said:
You guys are cracking me up

RE: opinions, no worries, of course everyone hears things different!

For me, I go for pretty old school straight up cranked Marshall distortion, I feel like I've played some of the best (maybe even THE best) old Marshalls out there, cranked the snot out of em, so I have that thing burned in my brain... I need that sound or at least as close to it as you can get on a versatile amp with master volumes, 2 or 3 channels etc. So that's what you'll get from me.

RE: gain on ch3- ch3 will basically be a duplicate of ch2, with it's own eq, and then you'll have a separate gain boost, switchable independently, that you can use on ch2 or ch3. Really versatile. You could set up each channel the same, but make one louder, for solos. Or set them up radically different. One dark, one cutting. Low gain, hi gain. Whatever. And then switch in the boost on either.

The amp will come stock with a simple 4 button footswitch- with an optional footswitch available that will allow you to store presets, so you could have the clean unboosted, clean boosted, ch2 unboosted, ch2 boosted, ch3 unboosted, etc etc whatever you want. Bright in/out, different feedback settings stored on each preset for varying sag/tightness. It'll be as simple or as complex as you make it.


:rawk: :rawk: :rawk:

Looking forward to seeing, hearing and playing the final product!! (and thanks for putting up with the shenanigans!! :D )
 
Very cool Pete .... looking forward to checking it out. I agree about the classic Marshall sound with a multi channel amp, it is something a lot us want and look for.
 
sounds fantastic.. saw it this morning under my youtube subscriptions!
 
donbarzini":1oewp9mr said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.
 
se7en":fnao4e84 said:
donbarzini":fnao4e84 said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.


go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...
 
se7en":qkiqsvfy said:
donbarzini":qkiqsvfy said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.
I hear some of what you are saying on this clip but truthfully when I heard pete and andy at tone merchants the top end was not harsh or fizzy at all and you can totally dial back the metal and make it warm and fat like a crumbly old vintage Marshall.

What I like about this clip is the demartini honk he's getting

brown is in the eye if the beholder and rockstah has vhI and II drilled to the floor
vic/Mojave is more fair warning
but I bet this amp will get very close too...
 
petethorn":2hlo9t9s said:
se7en":2hlo9t9s said:
donbarzini":2hlo9t9s said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.


go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...

I was just going to comment on what you touched on here. When u pan the guitars in VH1, its got that presency/fizz thats going on. I've always speculated that Ed 's pickups were a hybrid of a single and humbucker, because on some tunes, especially when he kicked in the phase 90 for solos, it sounds single coily, at least to me it does on that record. Little Dreamer solo is a good example, even has a Blackmore vibe to it. Another thing that used to interest me is that by using a Northern Ash Body with a Brass nut and putting Gibson PAF low output pickup, conceptly would equate to a "brighter" sound...I have to agree with u on the live band mix too, if the amp is too dark and bassy, its gets lost in the mix, vs. cutting though. Is that Stock Suhr PAF in the bridge?
 
70strathead":1iuzcvim said:
petethorn":1iuzcvim said:
se7en":1iuzcvim said:
donbarzini":1iuzcvim said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.


go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...

I was just going to comment on what you touched on here. When u pan the guitars in VH1, its got that presency/fizz thats going on. I've always speculated that Ed 's pickups were a hybrid of a single and humbucker, because on some tunes, especially when he kicked in the phase 90 for solos, it sounds single coily, at least to me it does on that record. Little Dreamer solo is a good example, even has a Blackmore vibe to it. Another thing that used to interest me is that by using a Northern Ash Body with a Brass nut and putting Gibson PAF low output pickup, conceptly would equate to a "brighter" sound...I have to agree with u on the live band mix too, if the amp is too dark and bassy, its gets lost in the mix, vs. cutting though. Is that Stock Suhr PAF in the bridge?

Ya exactly- relatively low output pickup, and that Marshall of his is RIPPIN bright, like it's almost out of control bright but it's very exciting (I've heard it in person), it's almost unstable but really incredible at the same time, makes interesting things happen musically when you have all that distortion/compression/hi end... also I have the whole ATBL multitrack session, there's 2 tracks of guitar, sounds like 2 57's on different speakers or maybe on the same speaker in different positions, but one track is what most would consider exceedingly bright. Part of the sound

It's really necessary to try an amp I think, you can't tell exactly if it's for you from a clip- this was my way of getting a close EVH/Dimartini modded or dimed Marshall type sound, and really, go reference the records and you'll find it's pretty close to dead nuts on (even a little darker, ballsier and gainier than the Ratt tone) but there's the knobs and whatnot, turn em if you want something different, and of course there's no way to do that without trying it yourself. The amp will have different depth or whomp settings to play with too if you are prone to da broootalz

yes my guitar has a Suhr SSV, low 8k pickup....
 
donbarzini":17kaqshc said:
70strathead":17kaqshc said:
petethorn":17kaqshc said:
se7en":17kaqshc said:
donbarzini":17kaqshc said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.


go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...

I was just going to comment on what you touched on here. When u pan the guitars in VH1, its got that presency/fizz thats going on. I've always speculated that Ed 's pickups were a hybrid of a single and humbucker, because on some tunes, especially when he kicked in the phase 90 for solos, it sounds single coily, at least to me it does on that record. Little Dreamer solo is a good example, even has a Blackmore vibe to it. Another thing that used to interest me is that by using a Northern Ash Body with a Brass nut and putting Gibson PAF low output pickup, conceptly would equate to a "brighter" sound...I have to agree with u on the live band mix too, if the amp is too dark and bassy, its gets lost in the mix, vs. cutting though. Is that Stock Suhr PAF in the bridge?

VH1 is not my favorite EVH tone either. I'm not talking fizzy bright when diming the presence, I call the gain "Fuzzy" on every Suhr amp I've owned. I have not owned or played a PT100 but I heard several clips and the all have that characteristic, maybe it's just all the preamp gain in general, I prefer un NMV, but as I said, I would still like to try one in person, a PT100 that is, and NOT for VH tones, I could care less.


BTW on certain CAA models I would agree with you not on classic or classic+ but- 5881s, different front end and a different tranny and I've heard some fizz myself. This amp is a whole nother animal though, just try it when it's out then tell me what you think...
 
petethorn":24f0v6i3 said:
go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...

that is scary
you just wrote what i was thinking on all points.
particularly dialing in some bite on top to cut through live. it's a stage versus bedroom mentality
i'm more of a blues/classic rock rhythm tone guy instead of a modern driving rock guy but great tone is great tone and you have it with your amp

i know how killer and tuneable your amp is man...congrats!
 
70strathead":3twc64zx said:
petethorn":3twc64zx said:
se7en":3twc64zx said:
donbarzini":3twc64zx said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.


go listen to VH1, or FW, or the Ratt tune and then listen to the clip, back to back. it's no more fizzy. Keep in mind that's the sound I go for when playing that stuff- all you gotta do is back off the presence/treble if you want dark...

i.e. if you guys think that's fizzy then I say you'd find a plexi dimed very fizzy. The amp, basically IS a Marshall on CH2.

Also you're hearing a 57 on the cap. Move to the cone and it gets darker real quick. Use a Ribbon mic and now we are dark as night

But It's the top end that'll make you cut through the cymbals and the screaming chicks... this I've learned with time...

I was just going to comment on what you touched on here. When u pan the guitars in VH1, its got that presency/fizz thats going on. I've always speculated that Ed 's pickups were a hybrid of a single and humbucker, because on some tunes, especially when he kicked in the phase 90 for solos, it sounds single coily, at least to me it does on that record. Little Dreamer solo is a good example, even has a Blackmore vibe to it. Another thing that used to interest me is that by using a Northern Ash Body with a Brass nut and putting Gibson PAF low output pickup, conceptly would equate to a "brighter" sound...I have to agree with u on the live band mix too, if the amp is too dark and bassy, its gets lost in the mix, vs. cutting though. Is that Stock Suhr PAF in the bridge?


Cool info Ant.
 
mentoneman":33ou1ws4 said:
se7en":33ou1ws4 said:
donbarzini":33ou1ws4 said:
Why? I never bonded with any Suhr amp I owned, I just don't like the fuzzy gain and the PT100 sounds the same as my old OD100 that was modded for a more Marshall flavor and it was Steve's old amp. I never played a PT100 in person but many of the clips I've heard have the same characteristic. This is just gear, if people can't have their own opinion then why even have a forum, no? Many grown men have a very strong bond of love with their gear and take offense easily, I don't think Pete is like that and I'm sure as a professional he understands that not everyone in the world will like his signature amplifier. I would still like to try one and see if I could dial the fuzz out.

I feel the same way. Just sounds fuzzy in the gain. But, other than that I dig 'em.
I hear some of what you are saying on this clip but truthfully when I heard pete and andy at tone merchants the top end was not harsh or fizzy at all and you can totally dial back the metal and make it warm and fat like a crumbly old vintage Marshall.

What I like about this clip is the demartini honk he's getting

brown is in the eye if the beholder and rockstah has vhI and II drilled to the floor
vic/Mojave is more fair warning
but I bet this amp will get very close too...

The Warren vibe is there, what I brought out from the clip. Would like to hear the amp through greenbacks myself.
 
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