LanierP
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Appreciate the kinds words brother!!!
What’s the tightest amp with the biggest low end you’ve played. ?
cardinal
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OMG haha was horsing around with this for the last hour
Mesa Studio Pre into an M180 power amp (like the Coliseum power section). I've had IIC+ DRG and III DRG but the low end and volume out of this thing is absolutely bonkers.
Mesa Studio Pre into an M180 power amp (like the Coliseum power section). I've had IIC+ DRG and III DRG but the low end and volume out of this thing is absolutely bonkers.
Beyond Black
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WHOA!!!!! Call of the trumpeting Hellhounds, Conductor of Hell, Muter of E, and Conjuror of Satan!!!!?
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ZEN Amps
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MI Audio Megalith for me, tight but big and mean. I hear the Herbert MkIII is pretty special, anyone spent time with one?
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braintheory
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It’s not imo. Too smooth, polished and not organic sounding. I had my Mark III++ coliseum (no stripe version) AB’ed with it and wiped the floor with it. Was tighter, even more bottom end and way more raw, aggressive and growly. Not even close. I remember possibly liking the MKI Herbert more, but really didn’t care for any Herbert revisions or for that matter any Diezel made after the original blueface. Just not the same anymore after that one. Now those were special amps, not what they currently offer
The Megalith Beta is one of the last few amps I’ve been meaning to try. Sounds very promising based on the clips I’ve heard. Very curious about it. Only other high gain amps left on my list to try are JT, Larry and Hermansson
Dale B
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You need to just ride over to Katy one day and listen. I would love to go play them, and I live in Katy.
Exo-metal
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I've debated buying one of these bc I already have it in the C+ Coliseum AND the GEQ is in the POWER SECTION, wayyy different than in the preamp as pictured above. Still, if one of those popped up in my area I would snag it and depthmod it?OMG haha was horsing around with this for the last hour
Mesa Studio Pre into an M180 power amp (like the Coliseum power section). I've had IIC+ DRG and III DRG but the low end and volume out of this thing is absolutely bonkers.
cardinal
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The schematics of the Studio Pre have the GEQ coming after all the gain stages, placing the GEQ right before you send the signal to the power amp, which same place the schematics of the C+ and III have the GEQ.
The Studio Pre GEQ is not like putting the GEQ pedal in the FX loop of a Mark head. When you do that with a Mark head, it puts the GEQ before at least one of the gain stages, which isn't really where you want to be dramatically cutting and boosting the EQ. The Mark FX loop is in a weird place.
Exo-metal
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Half true, the voltage is the key and it is far higher in the power section by a few hundred volts...
cardinal
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What are the voltages? The IIc+ schematic draws the GEQ in with the preamp for what it's worth. The power amp is on a separate page and starts with the phase inverter and also details the voltage supply. I don't see a schematic of the Studio Pre voltage supply; Id love to see it if you have it.
Exo-metal
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As a friend to the shop I will not do that. Trying to find what I have, let me look but in the meantime I just learned of another output tube rated higher than the STR415, the Tung-Sol 7581A. I asked Mike about running KT88s and he gave the thumbs down so this may be the answer for the tightest low end a power section could ask for.
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rottingcorpse
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Try the Herbert with an ISP guitar sub. Dwisted Dave,Juggy Mike and myself watched my Herbert almost fall off the cab while doing palm muted chugs at an ampfest. We were laughing our asses off.
By the way,the Randall X2 thru the warhead stack has crushing bottom end thru the 2x15 cab. Like insane tight bottom. Mailman in a thong bottom.
RedB4Black
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I do! Someday @UberschallEL34 and I will get all our Wizards in the same room and blow up half of Texas
WizardSouth-JP
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The power grid would be strained like when Clark Griswald flips the Christmas lights on - would be 15 Wizards in one room - no walls would survive.I do! Someday @UberschallEL34 and I will get all our Wizards in the same room and blow up half of Texas
311boogieman
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Dale B
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I just want to come watch! HahahahaI do! Someday @UberschallEL34 and I will get all our Wizards in the same room and blow up half of Texas
Exo-metal
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I was wrong. I just left the shop and the man said it's rail voltage around 50vdc...
cardinal
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Cool; I just sent a Mark III DRG in for repairs. Really hoping Mike B or anyone other there and get it fixed up.
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ErikT
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That power amp looks baaaaad. I bet it destroys.OMG haha was horsing around with this for the last hour
Mesa Studio Pre into an M180 power amp (like the Coliseum power section). I've had IIC+ DRG and III DRG but the low end and volume out of this thing is absolutely bonkers.
cardinal
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its interesting because for a lot of amps, I prefer a smaller power section (I like 50 watt Marshalls over their 100 watt counterparts, and I like the Dual Rec over the Triple). But this thing has been the exception. It's not stiff or "hollow" in the midrange. It sounds like what I like about the Mark amps but more of it.
I'd assumed a lot of the Coliseum talk in this thread was just hype, but after this experience I suspect that those Coliseum amps really are something pretty damn cool. Sucks that you use to be able to buy a III Coliseum for like $1200 and I never bothered ?
