What is the big deal about Suhr guitars?

[Johnny LaRue]

Neck throughs don't feel right or resonate right, for me anyway. I much prefer a good bolt or set neck. Everybody has different tastes, isn't it wonderful?

 

[Digital Jams]

Has anyone bought or played the overseas Suhr guitars yet? Since the press release I have not heard much else, I thought they were going to be the Charvel killer due to the price being the same but with extra attention.

I played the Suhr Rasmus guitars at NAMM. For the same price point, I prefered the Charvel Promods and the Buddy Blaze imports that were right across from the Suhr booth personally...

That said, if I was forced to have only one guitar, it'd be my Suhr Guthrie over anything else I own. It can cover so much territory in a single guitar, I could be happy with just that one... great playing and purdy too...

Steve

Wow, well coming from you I am glad I went team charvel

Even if they are uglier than your GG

 

[fuzzyguitars]

i would have to give the edge to the recent anderson guitars.

with the wedgie and the original floyd rose trems, they seem to have a little extra mojo.

still not selling the two suhrs that i own. they have the original floyds on em as well.


i am tempted by the moderns, but tried em at namm and the necks are too narrow for me

not a big fan of the newer gotoh floyds as well.

 

[RJF]

...Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Smells like a troll post but I'll bite. Your comments above indicate you have no understanding of the correlation between guitar-design and cost. So, it's pointless to carry on the conversation any further.

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

 

[Code001]

...Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Smells like a troll post but I'll bite. Your comments above indicate you have no understanding of the correlation between guitar-design and cost. So, it's pointless to carry on the conversation any further.

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

Can you explain exactly how a bolt-on is lower quality and of lesser design than a neck-thru or set neck?

 

[RedB4Black]

Caparisons are a good example.

I've played 2 caparisons. The bolt-on one was complete crap. The set neck (?) Angelus was nice. I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

 

[Anonymous]

...Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Smells like a troll post but I'll bite. Your comments above indicate you have no understanding of the correlation between guitar-design and cost. So, it's pointless to carry on the conversation any further.

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

Can you explain exactly how a bolt-on is lower quality and of lesser design than a neck-thru or set neck?

No. He can't...

Steve

 

[LVC]

...... I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

can you provide a link to one?

Just curious what is Suhr spam thread is (I am assuming posts by the company or dealers) correct?

 

[jcj]

...... I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

can you provide a link to one?

Just curious what is Suhr spam thread is (I am assuming posts by the company or dealers) correct?

He means relatively new purchases being flipped by the owner. Not one thread, but seperate instances.

 

[RedB4Black]

...... I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

can you provide a link to one?

Just curious what is Suhr spam thread is (I am assuming posts by the company or dealers) correct?

He means relatively new purchases being flipped by the owner. Not one thread, but seperate instances.

^this

 

[Badronald]

...Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Smells like a troll post but I'll bite. Your comments above indicate you have no understanding of the correlation between guitar-design and cost. So, it's pointless to carry on the conversation any further.

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

Can you explain exactly how a bolt-on is lower quality and of lesser design than a neck-thru or set neck?

No. He can't...

Steve

I've never played a set neck or neck through that i liked better than my bolt-on's. I guess I prefer bolt-on's too.
Does this mean I prefer inferior guitars?

 

[LVC]

...... I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

can you provide a link to one?

Just curious what is Suhr spam thread is (I am assuming posts by the company or dealers) correct?

He means relatively new purchases being flipped by the owner. Not one thread, but seperate instances.

got it

It is a beautiful thing the many options (necks/bodies/pickups) that are available with certain builders -- but it is also a real hinderance and in most cases a crap shoot when you purchase a guitar --- especially if it is used and it was custom built for someone else or with specs that a particular dealer likes.

In effect, whether it is a dealer or an individual -- you are buying a guitar with specs that were custom ordered.

Buying used or new without being familiar with the specs you are buying will often result in a bad outcome.

Suhr offers many neck shape/radius/body options ---- if you do not know exactly what you want -- odds are you might be disappointed.

It happened to me a few times with several builders (including Suhr) until I finally hit on a couple of build "recipes" I bonded with.

As an example, I got a couple of pre-Fender lawsuit Lentz guitars on trade -- If you do searches I think you will find most posts claiming that Lentz makes holy grail S and teles -I did not bond with the specs of those given guitars. I hated the guitars. I could not get rid of them fast enough.

with respect to anderson -- they do not offer as many options -- and most TAGs you see out there usually have 1 5/8 nut with a "happy medium" neck profile - which is fairly generic and comfortable to many (I happen to dig that profile big time).

For me the suhr Landau specs guitars are the shitz --- they have the "perfect" recipe of body/neck/pickups/electronics --- again -- for me.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread -- I picked up a Landau spec Strat and I liked it sooo much that I ordered a Landau spec tele.

The reality is -- if that Suhr with those particular specs was not at the music store I went to -- I never in a million years would have thought to order (or would have had the balls to order) a custom guitar with those specs.

But there you go -- I walked into a store -- played the guitar --- was floored by it -- had a "holy shitz moment" -- purchased the guitar --- and immediately custom ordered another with the same specs.

 

[Ventura]

I gotsta chime in here... I play a lot of music and use a lot of different guitars. I've been seeking the single coil slap and snap of a Fender Strat for some time now, but I just can't get along with anything "Fender". Can't stand 'em. So I've been going with custom coil taps with my BKP's and so forth, but I really wanted to get into a "strat proper". Bear in mind I own 2 ESP's, both neck-thru super-strats, an FR-II and an NT-II. They're alright - fast players, but not the single coil hit I was wanting. So I was talking to my distributor, and he suggested I try a Suhr. Never played one, only heard about them... I said sure - he sent me one, a brand new S4 Pro Series:

viewtopic.php?f=3&t=72142&hilit=+Suhr

He said try it out and if I liked it, buy it. Obviously we have a good working relationship... Anyway, he said this off the cuff, didn't think anything of it. Less than a week later, UPS shows up. Needless to say, this is my first bolt on neck, strat-proper ax that I really REALLY like playing. Sounds good - exactly what I was hoping for, snappy and crisp. Great funk, great noodlin', great clarity, and awesome cleans/clears. I'm impressed. Now, I know this is sort of Suhr's baseline model rundown, but for what it is, I think it's awesome. I managed to get a curled maple top as opposed to the flamed - very nice. For the rest of my guitars? In addition to the above mentioned ESP's, I have a custom Hamer (glue neck) and several top-drawer Les Pauls. For what it's worth, the Suhr plays brilliantly - moreover - it plays EXACTLY like I wanted it to, and sounds terrific.

That's my "surprise" introduction to Suhr. Take it for what it's worth...

V.

 

[jcj]

...... I'm dying to check out a suhr, but I do see alot of relatively new Suhrs in spam threads. Which concerns me. I don't think I'd buy one without playing it first. Never see the same from Anderson's. I've played them and really like them and they are bolt-ons.

can you provide a link to one?

Just curious what is Suhr spam thread is (I am assuming posts by the company or dealers) correct?

He means relatively new purchases being flipped by the owner. Not one thread, but seperate instances.

got it

It is a beautiful thing the many options (necks/bodies/pickups) that are available with certain builders -- but it is also a real hinderance and in most cases a crap shoot when you purchase a guitar --- especially if it is used and it was custom built for someone else or with specs that a particular dealer likes.

In effect, whether it is a dealer or an individual -- you are buying a guitar with specs that were custom ordered.

Buying used or new without being familiar with the specs you are buying will often result in a bad outcome.

Suhr offers many neck shape/radius/body options ---- if you do not know exactly what you want -- odds are you might be disappointed.

It happened to me a few times with several builders (including Suhr) until I finally hit on a couple of build "recipes" I bonded with.

As an example, I got a couple of pre-Fender lawsuit Lentz guitars on trade -- If you do searches I think you will find most posts claiming that Lentz makes holy grail S and teles -I did not bond with the specs of those given guitars. I hated the guitars. I could not get rid of them fast enough.

with respect to anderson -- they do not offer as many options -- and most TAGs you see out there usually have 1 5/8 nut with a "happy medium" neck profile - which is fairly generic and comfortable to many (I happen to dig that profile big time).

For me the suhr Landau specs guitars are the shitz --- they have the "perfect" recipe of body/neck/pickups/electronics --- again -- for me.

As I mentioned earlier in the thread -- I picked up a Landau spec Strat and I liked it sooo much that I ordered a Landau spec tele.

The reality is -- if that Suhr with those particular specs was not at the music store I went to -- I never in a million years would have thought to order (or would have had the balls to order) a custom guitar with those specs.

But there you go -- I walked into a store -- played the guitar --- was floored by it -- had a "holy shitz moment" -- purchased the guitar --- and immediately custom ordered another with the same specs.

Spot on.

My personal preference is Anderson, but I've owned a KILLER Suhr I wish I hadn't sold.

BTW....I wish I could easily find Andersons with 1.625 nut width.

Almost all I've seen new or used are 11/16ths. I'm getting ready to order one with the .625 nut width, and the even taper +.03 neck.

Finding what works for YOU is the key

 

[RJF]

...Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Smells like a troll post but I'll bite. Your comments above indicate you have no understanding of the correlation between guitar-design and cost. So, it's pointless to carry on the conversation any further.

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

Can you explain exactly how a bolt-on is lower quality and of lesser design than a neck-thru or set neck?

No. He can't...

Steve

Am I going to argue that I think that a bolt on guitar is inferior? No....because I wouldn't get anywhere even if I did argue that point. I guess I grew up on that you had a real guitar once you stepped up to a full on neck thru.

For me, bolt on vs. neck thru is like what a tube amp is to a solid state amp for many. There just isn't a substitute for some things once it's burned into your brain.

 

[Code001]

Am I going to argue that I think that a bolt on guitar is inferior? No....because I wouldn't get anywhere even if I did argue that point. I guess I grew up on that you had a real guitar once you stepped up to a full on neck thru.

For me, bolt on vs. neck thru is like what a tube amp is to a solid state amp for many. There just isn't a substitute for some things once it's burned into your brain.

So you're basically admitting you're irrational about this entire thing and just wanted to start a troll post?

 

[lolzgreg]

It seems Suhr guitars are wildly popular around here and I just can't figure out why. Most all their models are just bolt on necks, geesh...... Ever heard of neck thru?

Don't get me wrong, some of the finishes are definitely top notch, but you'd never get me to pay $3-4K for a bolt on.

Carry on.....

You know what my Grand Pappy used to say .... "If it doesn't say SUHR ... it sucks!"

I like the neck on your Modern but i can see how some think those Modern necks are too small. However, listening to that Cali mod clip you made, your LP Classic destroys your Suhr tonewise. IMHO

I don't like Gibson guitars much, yet I definitely agree with this statement. The Suhr in Carl's video sounded fuzzier and weaker than the Les Paul. Something tells me he dialed the amp in for the Suhr as well, considering that he played it first, and yet the Paul still owned.

 

[Digital Jams]

Guitar flipping, nothing new here. Some get it right the first time and some chase their tails around. Says nothing about any one brand.

 

[RJF]

Am I going to argue that I think that a bolt on guitar is inferior? No....because I wouldn't get anywhere even if I did argue that point. I guess I grew up on that you had a real guitar once you stepped up to a full on neck thru.

For me, bolt on vs. neck thru is like what a tube amp is to a solid state amp for many. There just isn't a substitute for some things once it's burned into your brain.

So you're basically admitting you're irrational about this entire thing and just wanted to start a troll post?

no no.... really did/do just want to get more info going on the Suhrs. My point was, it's hard to look at a bolt on as equal value when compared to neck thru, as someone that grew up playing only tube amps would likely question the ability of something like the AxeFX unit. It's something that you just get used to.

 

[dfrattaroli]

Ahhh, a Suhr fan boy.....

No need to be a dick.

design and cost? That is my point.... I'll pay $4K for a guitar.... say a custom shop Jackson that is a neck thru, or ESP neck thru, but a bolt on anything? No....... I have no problem paying for top designs and quality, as long as it's top notch building construction methods. Caparisons are a good example.

Again, you're equating "design" (bolt on versus neck thru) with "build quality". That's stupid. A set neck can be built like shit too. You're implying that building a bolt on is simpler than building a neck thru and therefore, should be cheaper. That's stupid too. It's not simpler to build a bolt on. You still have the same neck alignment issues and concerns as with any design.

If that makes me a Suhr fan boy, fine. But you're clearly a Suhr basher. Because Anderson makes pretty expensive bolt ons too and you haven't tried to shit on them. At least not yet. Oh wait, TAG only uses 2 bolts! The world is coming to an end! Grosh? Tyler? Got Bolts?