AxeFx insanity....

[mentoneman]

i am blissfully naive to what you guys are making reference to, but I do have to say it sounds pretty funny!

Sniderman, help!

 

[mentoneman]

i am blissfully naive to what you guys are making reference to, but I do have to say it sounds pretty funny!

Sniderman, help!

You guys are hilarious. As Velcro Fly stated, Jason gave me the royal hookup in updating my firmware and putting in some cool patches to try including a couple he created which are killer!! He also loaded a bunch of the amp models naked so I can build my own patches from those . That is key for me and getting my sound from this thing.

Jason's XTC patch is just freeking great and side by side would sound scary close to exact if going thru same cab and power amp.He did another one that blends a plexi and a metal amp, very cool. I only use mine with the VHT2/50/2 or the loop of another amp. I run it thru a pair of 4X12s and am impressed.

I love the thing. I love the organ and synth patches and all the useless sound effect ones as well. I hate the Dweezil patches as they are way to wet for me. The Tool patch is cool. Some of the presets are not good for me but altered you can make them kill. I am not a guy who wants lots of effects affecting my tone, just enough. The beauty is you can alter the hell out of them and get some very cool sounds. Thru the Tube power amps I am getting all the controlled feedback and things I like to feel at home.

Is it going to boot my Two Rock 10th Anniversary or moddded Topaz out of the house? Not a chance. Kingsley or Suhr PT100, not likely- time will tell but I doubt it -but if I get desperate for cash or figure out how to make it sound and feel exactly or really close to those amps all bets are off.

Great piece of gear on many levels.I really dig it. I also really dig all of my current amps. My new rule is simple- amp or guitar is seeing no use for a few months, bye bye. This thing has so many cool sounds and things on tap it seems like it will be hard to get bored with but again time will tell.

ah my tone life preserver in a sea of axe frenzied fanatics!
not gonna do the ultra touchy feely dumble clean/fusion thing..that's kinda like trying to digitally reproduce a woman!

in a way it follows the same logic I preach to many acoustic players I mix for.
acoustics always sound better live when you insert a quality tube device in line.

I've heard all kinds of guys use baggs para di, fishman, and other ss acoustic di's but as soon as you use a tube interface, bingo there's the sound. No struggle no fighting. Done.

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

Next question
Can it do 2290 delays and/or echoplex tape saturation/warble?
To me the fxs sound a great deal like eventide fxs with a very tc gforce based user interface.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

Jason's XTC patch is just freeking great and side by side would sound scary close to exact if going thru same cab and power amp.He did another one that blends a plexi and a metal amp, very cool. I only use mine with the VHT2/50/2 or the loop of another amp. I run it thru a pair of 4X12s and am impressed.

Jason has a good ear for this stuff...on a few others it was " dont like it? what do you want to hear, what does it need to do?" and within seconds it was there....Glad you're digging it, those tones made my decision to move my XTC pretty easy. I'll be running mine through a VHT2/50/2 and my Aiken so similiar deal.

 

[* velcro-fly *]

...maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

How does one accomplish this task, Sensei ?

 

[Capulin Overdrive]

how would the XLR outs to a tube mic preamp then to an SS amp sound?

 

[mentoneman]

...maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

How does one accomplish this task, Sensei ?

i'm afraid like finding any other magic combination--trial and error

ed's axe/amp clips and john c's m4/axe combo clips do the job so I can't help but wonder if a simple tube di in the loop of the axe would shave away the digital directness and plump up the outcome?

I'm instinctively drawn to gear by my ears and touch.
the axefx clips are good enough to make me really eager to play it

the mojave proto amps I heard vic playing made me want one on the spot after one minute.

two rock amps have that same impact on me.

old jensen and celestion speakers, mullard tubes, 2290 delay...
Those things spoke to me instantly

 

[mentoneman]

I can start this off a bit. Inserting a clean tube preamp into the loop makes a noticable improvment to the clean tones in the Axe. I've had great sucess with many different units, be it simply the preamp section of a tube head or a stand alone preamp. Even a cheapo Presonus Blue Tube does wonders for the touch response. Sound wise it's not much different, but the feel does improve.

The AxeFX, with the DrZ sim going into Velcro's Aiken (setup super flat and low gain with a low gain preamp tube) was every bit as good as 99% of the clean tube amps I've played and owned, and better that 95% of them.

I don't think of the AxeFX as the end all replacement of my tube amps, while it can hold it's own solo, it's much more useful as an addition to my amp arsenal. I like it's high gain (full on metal) tones better than any high gain tube amp I've owned/played/heard, but still go to my Two Rock for cleans and a TopHat Emplexador for crunch, but could all change with the next firmware release..........

thanks for yet again reaffirming what I'm talking about
I'm willing to accept that this thing has potential to one day rival the most sensitive and beloved tube amps but for now I believe it still needs a little tube grease.

and there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[Meathead]

thanks for yet again reaffirming what I'm talking about
I'm willing to accept that this thing has potential to one day rival the most sensitive and beloved tube amps but for now I believe it still needs a little tube grease.

and there's nothing wrong with that.

Start reeling in boys...get the net.

 

[Anonymous]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Are you man enough to step up to the plate? I think "Yes"!

Steve

 

[mentoneman]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

 

[Anonymous]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

 

[degenaro]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?
i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Oy...I just spent the last day arguing with your boy Z...but what the hey...
A couple of things...I do not think it needs a tube power amp, guitar cabs or a tube DI when I use it to record.
The reason I want it live is so I can have the feel of a loud amp.

Snidermans opinion is usually pretty reliable, that said him and I do seriously disagree on some stuff..Sig X comes to mind. BUT here's the deal, and I mean this without malice, until you dial your own shit in you will never know what it can or cannot do.
I just listened to the mastered version of my new CD and I gotta tell you the tracks that have Axe direct to disk the tines fucking rule. That's all I'm saying. As Ralph says if you know what makes your sound tick it's there. And you're one of the guys that does know. Funnily enough I still remember Ralph arguing )way more than you btw) and now look at him. I remember Kage dismissing me when we talked on the phone and I brought it up, something like I'm completely happy with my Mark IV, now look at him.

And lastly did you check the clip I threw up last night of the panning between amp models?

 

[degenaro]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

Fuck me, we essentially posted the same rant at the same time!

 

[Anonymous]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?
i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Oy...I just spent the last day arguing with your boy Z...but what the hey...
A couple of things...I do not think it needs a tube power amp, guitar cabs or a tube DI when I use it to record.
The reason I want it live is so I can have the feel of a loud amp.

Snidermans opinion is usually pretty reliable, that said him and I do seriously disagree on some stuff..Sig X comes to mind. BUT here's the deal, and I mean this without malice, until you dial your own shit in you will never know what it can or cannot do.
I just listened to the mastered version of my new CD and I gotta tell you the tracks that have Axe direct to disk the tines fucking rule. That's all I'm saying. As Ralph says if you know what makes your sound tick it's there. And you're one of the guys that does know. Funnily enough I still remember Ralph arguing )way more than you btw) and now look at him. I remember Kage dismissing me when we talked on the phone and I brought it up, something like I'm completely happy with my Mark IV, now look at him.

And lastly did you check the clip I threw up last night of the panning between amp models?

Thank YOU! Confirmed my last response to our esteemed tone fiend 100%...

Steve

 

[Anonymous]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

Fuck me, we essentially posted the same rant at the same time!

GREAT minds... ya know... BTW... I NEED my CD of your new shit....!

Steve

 

[degenaro]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

Fuck me, we essentially posted the same rant at the same time!

GREAT minds... ya know... BTW... I NEED my CD of your new shit....!

Steve

It'll be for sale next week...trust me you won't miss the spam.

 

[Anonymous]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

Fuck me, we essentially posted the same rant at the same time!

GREAT minds... ya know... BTW... I NEED my CD of your new shit....!

Steve

It'll be for sale next week...trust me you won't miss the spam.

I don't need any spam... I've heard it and I'm IN...

Steve

 

[rupe]

Another question for you guys who are using this unit live. What are your thoughts on the best way to control changes on the fly?

 

[Gainfreak]

instead of me being persuaded to accept the axe will do tube response maybe it's the axe guys that should explore just how undigital it can sound with the addition of a tube buffer in the preamp chain.

I'm not trying to persuade you to do anything. I'll just say that I and my ears personally have no need for a tube buffer with the Axe to make it sound "plump". Rather than pontificating, I recommend you, if you are as interested as you seem to be, plug into one of these mofo's yourself and tweak your way to heaven or hell. One of the two awaits... the rest of this conjecture is just cow excrement, although entertaining... and we've covered this pages ago...

Steve

i *think* it's already been established that the device sounds better with a tube power amp and guitar speakers per ralph and ed.

why would it be any different to continue that concept through to the preamp with a tube interface?
just because you say you don't need it for the tone you're getting?

i have a vht valvulator, a presonus blue tube, and my dbx 376 tube pre at my disposal...why wouldn't i try those once i give it a whirl "a capella" to see if i can make the box more familiar and appealing?

i love the same brown sound you do,and maybe the box can do it solo, but i'm also a fender guy at heart and jason and steve are confirming strengths and shortcomings about that neck of the tone woods that i'm hearing based on clips.

and for the record, i think i have a right to base opinions on clips. isn't that the point? what this thing SOUNDS like, period, whether in person or recorded?

i value your input..you know i do, just like ralph and steve e and ed's input.

Aa always (of course), you are entitled to your OWN thoughts and opinions of the CLIPS regardless of your direct experience with the box...

Listen... IMHO - you KNOW tone, you know what I'm sayin'?

imHo... the thing sounds UNREAL direct... Tube amps preferred for LIVE to ME (and perhaps Ed and Ralphie)... I've yet to hear any of my esteemed friends say that they couldn't RECORD something SCARY (in any genre) direct... and I'm including my brothers Ed and Ralphie

I'm not only about brown sounds... I like EVIL HEAVY sounds and HEAVENLY clean sounds... and a ton of stuff in between... my ears love a VAST spectrum...

All I want you to do is plug in, spend a little time with the interface and tell me what you think then. Try some of the parameters... Change the "Thump"... Modify the bright cap on a few amps... Then see what you think.... All the rest is conjecture, no? Get your hands on it and make your own decisions is all I'm sayin'... Makes sense, no? I'm personally convinced that if YOU dial it YOURSELF, you'll come to your OWN conclusions... and they may astonish you... I've not recorded 1/1000th of what I've created here in my little corner of the tone universe with the damn thing...

You have EARS... You have ABILITY on the instrument... APPLY them and then tell me what YOU think... and don't just plug in for 10 minutes either... EXPLORE... then tell me you need a tube buffer or WHATEVER, regardless of what ANYONE else says...

Respectfully and Thoughtfully ,

Steve

Fuck me, we essentially posted the same rant at the same time!

I cannot add anything to what Steve and Ed have said and it is true that Both Kage and I were pretty millitant in our thinking about the AXE at first but once we got our hands on one....Game Over.

 

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