AxeFx insanity....

[* velcro-fly *]

I do need me to build my Summer's tele

100% AxeFx including bass

 

[thiswaythatway]

I'm sure you could get it closer if you wanted. That would be close enough for me to enjoy the tones without having to shell out $2000 for a different amp every few months.

I'm convinced and my hand is thrown in to make this happen now

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44749

I really dont blame ya, I am done with amps and may kill the MK IV and PODXT Pro to score one.

Some Marshalls and the axe would do me just fine right now

I do need me to build my Summer's tele and another yngwie clone though, maybe scalloping the Charvel as well.

That's crazy talk. I gots to have me a Mark series Boogie. The 10 watt feature on the Mark V will do fine for Madison Square Basement!

 

[degenaro]

Here we go...what happens when we EQ and compress?

I say that made 1 sound like 2...
And here's what was used...

 

[* velcro-fly *]

What's scary is that he's selling it at a really good price, yet it's higher then what my XTC 212 combo cost street price once upon a time.

heh..what's scary is that it took a whole 4 minutes to sell

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ost5842662

o.k. then...regroup. Now it becomes Ultra vs. Standard

 

[Szar]

What's scary is that he's selling it at a really good price, yet it's higher then what my XTC 212 combo cost street price once upon a time.

heh..what's scary is that it took a whole 4 minutes to sell

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ost5842662

o.k. then...regroup. Now it becomes Ultra vs. Standard

ULTRA! You'll be able to update it FAR more than the Standard.

 

[degenaro]

What's scary is that he's selling it at a really good price, yet it's higher then what my XTC 212 combo cost street price once upon a time.

heh..what's scary is that it took a whole 4 minutes to sell

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/showth ... ost5842662

o.k. then...regroup. Now it becomes Ultra vs. Standard

Nice, if you can afford the extra bread...Ultra...

 

[degenaro]

In context this is what's gonna sound like...

 

[* velcro-fly *]

I was on the phone with J.B. talking about the list of amp sims and he pointed out "dude, you just bought back ALL of the amps you've sold in the last 2 years.."

 

[GITTarzann]

Get an Ultra !

There will always be a little remorse if you don't. (IMO).

 

[Digital Jams]

I'm sure you could get it closer if you wanted. That would be close enough for me to enjoy the tones without having to shell out $2000 for a different amp every few months.

I'm convinced and my hand is thrown in to make this happen now

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=44749

I really dont blame ya, I am done with amps and may kill the MK IV and PODXT Pro to score one.

Some Marshalls and the axe would do me just fine right now

I do need me to build my Summer's tele and another yngwie clone though, maybe scalloping the Charvel as well.

That's crazy talk. I gots to have me a Mark series Boogie. The 10 watt feature on the Mark V will do fine for Madison Square Basement!

Yeah I will probably keep it, still have to have a highgain amp.

 

[Digital Jams]

In context this is what's gonna sound like...

Very cool.

 

[degenaro]

Here's the deal, neither were an amp...second was the Axe run through the UAD compressor and channel strip. I reckon psycho acoustic perception is a bitch.

 

[mentoneman]

something struck me as i followed this thread

we now have a ton of guys with an axe fx, and according to all accounts there is now NO excuse to get exactly what you want to achieve tone wise, but who is making any progress with a unique identifiable tone that that sets yourself apart from the next guy??

or is it always going to be a tool that allows you to nail someone else's sound?

i liked your clip ed because their is some hair around the edges that sound legitimately amp like, but without trying to sound mean, none of your axe clips have me interested in pursuing the device for amp tone sake, except when you record your clips with real amps blended with the axe. for effects, yes, the axe is killer and sold me from day one.

same with john C. killer effects and he gets in the ballpark with ej sounds but not enough to convince me it's spot on. his marshall clips were cool though. but his m4 + axe clips are REALLY great.

steve sah5150 did those brown peacemaker modded clips that were great, and gainfreak did the boston tones really sweet too.
some guy on huge racks did some studio stuff that sounded an awful lot like a great OD-100 lead tone, and it was probably the best axe-fx clips i'd heard, and there are some dumbly clips that are great...stillwell does a great job with the U2 stuff...so the flexibility is attractive. and the size is VERY attractive.

but there is a way people play with a cranked amp that i keep looking for, and missing, with axefx clips...the interaction you get when you are in a space with a great amp setup, and are excited about what's happening between your hands and the speakers...

 

[Gainfreak]

something struck me as i followed this thread

we now have a ton of guys with an axe fx, and according to all accounts there is now NO excuse to get exactly what you want to achieve tone wise, but who is making any progress with a unique identifiable tone that that sets yourself apart from the next guy??

or is it always going to be a tool that allows you to nail someone else's sound?

i liked your clip ed because their is some hair around the edges that sound legitimately amp like, but without trying to sound mean, none of your axe clips have me interested in pursuing the device for amp tone sake, except when you record your clips with real amps blended with the axe. for effects, yes, the axe is killer and sold me from day one.

same with john C. killer effects and he gets in the ballpark with ej sounds but not enough to convince me it's spot on. his marshall clips were cool though. but his m4 + axe clips are REALLY great.

steve sah5150 did those brown peacemaker modded clips that were great, and gainfreak did the boston tones really sweet too.
some guy on huge racks did some studio stuff that sounded an awful lot like a great OD-100 lead tone, and it was probably the best axe-fx clips i'd heard, and there are some dumbly clips that are great...stillwell does a great job with the U2 stuff...so the flexibility is attractive. and the size is VERY attractive.

but there is a way people play with a cranked amp that i keep looking for, and missing, with axefx clips...the interaction you get when you are in a space with a great amp setup, and are excited about what's happening between your hands and the speakers...

As with everyone who has said this same thing (myself included) the secret is for you to get your hands on the axe-fx and sit down and get what you want from it.
You are not going to hear other peoples clips and be sold (at least I wasn't) The clips should only spark your interest and as with any piece of gear.having it in front of you will allow you to nail what other people are missing.....because Im not missing anything because I dial the Af to do what I want it to do.... and Im posituve given your ear that you would do the same..trust me.

 

[Gainfreak]

Pat, I can also tell you from experiance that if you dial in a midgain tone and crank the axe fX through a poweramp, you are going to get the cranked amp tone you are looking for. ive done it before

 

[degenaro]

Pat, I have zero issue with you preferring something else. That said I recorded enough stuff that
I know what works and doesn't for me. And yes live I find a good tube power
amp a necessity. That said when I gig with a Super Lead get
ting all its screaming glory that accounts for any player
interaction is quite different than running it quiet enough to
use at my meager home studio. As for what is the goal with tones
. For me it really doesn't matter since it sounds about the
same regardless.
Actually amps seized to have much importance to me whe
n Holdsworth showed that it really mattered little whether he soloed through a Recto, a Yamaha nmodeller or a Univalve.

 

[mentoneman]

Pat, I can also tell you from experiance that if you dial in a midgain tone and crank the axe fX through a poweramp, you are going to get the cranked amp tone you are looking for. ive done it before

you, kage, steve, ed, velcro, bob, john c, jdub.....pretty convincing!

maybe i'll make a trip to tone merchants this week and see what all the fuss is about!

 

[Gainfreak]

Pat, I can also tell you from experiance that if you dial in a midgain tone and crank the axe fX through a poweramp, you are going to get the cranked amp tone you are looking for. ive done it before

you, kage, steve, ed, velcro, bob, john c, jdub.....pretty convincing!

maybe i'll make a trip to tone merchants this week and see what all the fuss is about!

it's the only way to truly know.

 

[mentoneman]

Pat, I have zero issue with you preferring something else. That said I recorded enough stuff that I know what works and doesn't for me. And yes live I find a good tube power amp a necessity. That said when I gig with a Super Lead getting all its screaming glory that accounts for any player interaction is quite different than running it quiet enough to use at my meager home studio. As for what is the goal with tones. For me it really doesn't matter since it sounds about the same regardless

the live video jam clip you did with the JMP really spoke volumes about the real versus virtual experience. more emotional response to the jmp rig.

and the recent stratotone phaser clips also reinforced the differences inherent to the real versus virtual thing, (and why i didn't bond with the m13!)

but,

i make it a point to not try and take your real versus axe tests because you tend to make the virtual clip sound better than the real clip with studio tool tweaking...not that that's wrong or bad...just not the same as dropping a 57 in front of a real rig, and then the live axe rig with no post eq.

 

[rupe]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!