AxeFx insanity....

[* velcro-fly *]

Pat, I can also tell you from experiance that if you dial in a midgain tone and crank the axe fX through a poweramp, you are going to get the cranked amp tone you are looking for. ive done it before

you, kage, steve, ed, velcro, bob, john c, jdub.....pretty convincing!

maybe i'll make a trip to tone merchants this week and see what all the fuss is about!

Braddah Pat - I will only say that I had my prepared "gee thats a cute little toy" speach all ready when Jason showed up (BTW - not Jason Wallis, Jason from Yakima ) It only took about ten minutes to realize that speach was gonna be worthless. The in the room interaction with a power amp into a real cab is THERE, in spades..thats what got me. As is the touchy feelly stuff: turn the volume down on the guitar and everything cleans up. Run a high gain tone and turn up the volume but hit it light with a pick and fingers and its clean with an edge - hit it hard and it grinds immediatley. All the while you're moving plenty of air with the cabs...the low volume tones are huge as well. I turned the Bogner down really low ala late night volume and played, then hooked up the AxeFx at the same volume. In every facet it was better - I think mostly because you were able to get the power amp up there and control volume from the Black Box. Because the Box is not relying on being driven by tubes it actually processes a better sound to be amplified at that volume.

Another big thing was that I had Jason turn off the effects for most of the time so I could get a real picture of the way things sound. So many of the clips out there are just drenched in effects. The dry, raw, in your face overdrive tones were awesome. Thats when I knew this would more than work for me.

I should also point out that I had actually been thinking about letting the Bogner go before this AxeFx epiphany...My Aiken Intruder is bolted to the floor, is not going anywhere - magic amp. I was going to pick up another smaller high gain head and a Swart AST for cleans, run a three amp rig. The realization that I could have it ALL just blew me away. For my situation this just makes sense - and in no way is it a compromise.

Sheeit..if in the end it doesn't work, I'll sell it I seriously doubt it though...

 

[Gainfreak]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

 

[ctoddrun]

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

Just wondering... did you get a chance to upload those sounds?

 

[Gainfreak]

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

Just wondering... did you get a chance to upload those sounds?

I haven't uploaded a thing Yet. Im working on a new Boston patch that will have the cross faded delays controlled via midi and a midi controlled harmonizer that will do the 3rd harmony when you feedback (think longtime)
Once I get that sorted out, Im going to upload it.

 

[AmpliFIRE]

^^^^^^

(me waiting for Steve E to get his Axe FX)

 

[Digital Jams]

Sheeit..if in the end it doesn't work, I'll sell it

digital ear fatigue within three weeks or you'll be a knob turning maniac and won't play for more than five minutes without re-adjusting something

All that rain in Oregon causes him to be inside too much, this experiment will never last

 

[rupe]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

Awesome...and a big thanks for the comrehensive answer

Now, what to sell???

 

[degenaro]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

SS into my guitar cab isn't happening for me. I tried and by comparison it's just too far off for my needs.
I much prefer DI into FOH over SS power amp into a guitar cab. But my preference is tube power amp, VHT 2-50-2 specifically into my cab as well as DI into FOH.

 

[dfrattaroli]

Have to vouch again for Ralph's Ultra/2:90 rig. It's astonishingly good. Truly eye-opening. I have a Standard and it's great even through a Carvin DCM150. I won't be using it that way ultimately but it's worth mentioning.

Ralph, are your patches on AxeChange.net? I'd love 'em if you could send 'em. I totally forgot about that Boston patch you let us hear at Joe's. Specifically, I'd love that Mark IV stuff you dialed in.

Dave

 

[Gainfreak]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

Awesome...and a big thanks for the comrehensive answer

Now, what to sell???

You are very welcome!!

 

[Gainfreak]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

SS into my guitar cab isn't happening for me. I tried and by comparison it's just too far off for my needs.
I much prefer DI into FOH over SS power amp into a guitar cab. But my preference is tube power amp, VHT 2-50-2 specifically into my cab as well as DI into FOH.

I haven't tried FOH yet but after hearing Dweezils clips and a few others, I might give it a try at a flyout gig!!! (provided that we get one lol )

 

[Gainfreak]

Have to vouch again for Ralph's Ultra/2:90 rig. It's astonishingly good. Truly eye-opening. I have a Standard and it's great even through a Carvin DCM150. I won't be using it that way ultimately but it's worth mentioning.

Ralph, are your patches on AxeChange.net? I'd love 'em if you could send 'em. I totally forgot about that Boston patch you let us hear at Joe's. Specifically, I'd love that Mark IV stuff you dialed in.

Dave

Dave!! I haven't uploaded anything yet because I keep tweaking them lol! With that said, since I know that you already like the ones I had at Joe's so I can upload them for you no problem!!

 

[rupe]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

Awesome...and a big thanks for the comrehensive answer

Now, what to sell???

You are very welcome!!

One more question
Do you use anything else with the Ultra/2:90 rig (BBE, EQ, etc) or is that all you need?

 

[Digital Jams]

Holy shit Steve just picked up his VHT 2/50/2 already

 

[Gainfreak]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

Awesome...and a big thanks for the comrehensive answer

Now, what to sell???

You are very welcome!!

One more question
Do you use anything else with the Ultra/2:90 rig (BBE, EQ, etc) or is that all you need?

Nope nothing else is needed and its all built in!

My rcoverband rig is a furman power-strip,AXE-FX,Boogie 2:90, Earcandy 2x12 and a ground control midi pedal and thats it (Im going to add an expression pedal soon)

All the EQ's and sound Enhancements are including in the thing!!

 

[Gainfreak]

Holy shit Steve just picked up his VHT 2/50/2 already

What took him so long?

 

[Digital Jams]

Holy shit Steve just picked up his VHT 2/50/2 already

Now he just needs to get the silent fan and a usb to midi controller and a custom made bubinga rack chassis from OZ.

I've always wanted to be a golf club.

 

[rupe]

I would be intersted in one of these to put together a slimmed-down live rig more than anything. I find myself doing mostly covers these days so I need the flexability to "ball park" multiple sounds. A few questions:

1) Does this unit work better with a tube or SS power amp for live use? Specifically, would the "colorization" added from a tube amp (I have a 2:90) actually be less desirable than a more exact reproduction provided by SS?

2) How well can this thing dial in "less than great" tones...specifically, I carry a SR&D Sustainor in my rack for Boston and 80's ZZ Top material...not stellar tones but very unique unto themselves.

3) Dynamics...how well does it react to volume knob manipulations and picking dynamics? (I've heard varying reports on this elsewhere...I'd love to hear it from the guys here that seem to be getting the most from this unit)

Thanks!!!

I prefer to use a Tube Poweramp but it doesn't suck using a SS poweramp. I actually use the 2:90, so given that you already have one, I can tell you from experiance that it will kill with it. You can use it with some of the simulations or without. ive used both with great success.

I play in a coverband and I dialed in a sound specifically for Boston. To say that I got killer reviews using that tone is an understatement and I was very surprised to say the least lol
It's safe to say that you can ditch your rockman

The dynamics are great provided that you dial in a tone that it works well with. In other words, if you dial in a massive distortion patch that needs a gate, it will react like a real amp in that your dynamics will go out the window lol but if you keep it sane, there is no better Modelor for dynamics then the axe IMHO

Awesome...and a big thanks for the comrehensive answer

Now, what to sell???

You are very welcome!!

One more question
Do you use anything else with the Ultra/2:90 rig (BBE, EQ, etc) or is that all you need?

Nope nothing else is needed and its all built in!

My rcoverband rig is a furman power-strip,AXE-FX,Boogie 2:90, Earcandy 2x12 and a ground control midi pedal and thats it (Im going to add an expression pedal soon)

All the EQ's and sound Enhancements are including in the thing!!

 

[Digital Jams]

I've always wanted to be a golf club.

I've often thought of entering the Priesthood.

I'd planned to go to law school after I graduated.

 

[Gainfreak]

I've always wanted to be a golf club.

I've often thought of entering the Priesthood.

I'd planned to go to law school after I graduated.

When do you graduate?