Death Magnetic Leaked..........

[Juggernaut]

Like it or hate the album their is one thing no one can deny is that the album is pure 100% thrash metal

Chow,

I''ll bite as well..... it's not Thrash, sorry, has "thrashy" moments, but it's not a Thrash album, go get the New Testament or Exodus, THOSE are Thrash albums.

 

[bunghole]

Like it or hate the album their is one thing no one can deny is that the album is pure 100% thrash metal

Chow,

I''ll bite as well..... it's not Thrash, sorry, has "thrashy" moments, but it's not a Thrash album, go get the New Testament or Exodus, THOSE are Thrash albums.

I'll bite

the last Exodus album was a bit too groove oriented to be true thrash

as far as old 80s thrash bands who still play undeniable thrash, see: Destruction

and the New Testament? how is a book a thrash album? we talking about the Via Dolorosa? I guess JC took a thrashing

 

[Juggernaut]

I knew you'd pop your ugly opinionated ass in here.

 

[bunghole]

way better than 99% of so called metal that has come out in the last how many years.

In my humble opinion best thrash album sence LOG ashes of the wake
Like it or hate the album their is one thing no one can deny is that the album is pure 100% thrash metal

I noticed Jugghead conveniently didn't quote the LOG comment

LoG aren't thrash. sorry. not trying to be a dick. But it just seems trendy lately for any metal band to claim the thrash label. I guess cause its revered so much. I mean most metal fans like thrash. good go between from the classic stuff to the brutal stuff. really, i don't know if any metal fan "hates" thrash.

anyway, on to my point - I suspect you haven't listened to much metal in the last how ever many years. Or if you have, you've only heard the -core bullshit that is passed off as metal, you don't like death metal, or you just haven't looked under the radar at the great heavy/speed/thrash/power/prog metal bands that make great music. this includes classic bands that still put out great material, and newer ones that do as well

sorry if I come off as a dick, not my intention

 

[Juggernaut]

DICK!!!!


I just ignored the LoG reference, because everyone knows I'm a fanboy.

 

[bunghole]

DICK!!!!


I just ignored the LoG reference, because everyone knows I'm a fanboy.

yeah I know

honestly, even though I don't like them, I have no beef with them as long as Gwar never opens for them. Cause I know they're friends. And LoG has opened for Gwar i think. I already had to deal with Gwar opening for Cradle of Filth, when they shouldn't be opening for anyone. Honestly, what kind of dumbass would want to go on AFTER gwar?

 

[Juggernaut]

Agreed, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go on after those guys... would be a hell of a mess and I might slip and fall.

But seriously, I've seen Gwar quite a few times, and they ALWAYS put on a GREAT fucking show.

 

[BOOGIE444]

Like it or hate the album their is one thing no one can deny is that the album is pure 100% thrash metal

Chow,

I''ll bite as well..... it's not Thrash, sorry, has "thrashy" moments, but it's not a Thrash album, go get the New Testament or Exodus, THOSE are Thrash albums.

Oh, well Cant please everyone, and I was one of the few people who thought "dark knight" sucked balls every second for almost 3 hours.

 

[BOOGIE444]

way better than 99% of so called metal that has come out in the last how many years.

In my humble opinion best thrash album sence LOG ashes of the wake
Like it or hate the album their is one thing no one can deny is that the album is pure 100% thrash metal

I noticed Jugghead conveniently didn't quote the LOG comment

LoG aren't thrash. sorry. not trying to be a dick. But it just seems trendy lately for any metal band to claim the thrash label. I guess cause its revered so much. I mean most metal fans like thrash. good go between from the classic stuff to the brutal stuff. really, i don't know if any metal fan "hates" thrash.

anyway, on to my point - I suspect you haven't listened to much metal in the last how ever many years. Or if you have, you've only heard the -core bullshit that is passed off as metal, you don't like death metal, or you just haven't looked under the radar at the great heavy/speed/thrash/power/prog metal bands that make great music. this includes classic bands that still put out great material, and newer ones that do as well

sorry if I come off as a dick, not my intention

Just my opinion, but this album is cool and different and dare I say fresh. I can barely even stand 99.99% metal out there today and yes I do listen and like death metal its just that listenble metal is getting harder to find these days.

 

[Juggernaut]

its just that listenble metal is getting harder to find these days.

Truth

 

[headlessdeadguy]

its just that listenble metal is getting harder to find these days.

Truth

I have found some good metal in the last year or so.

New Slayer,New Testament,The Absence,Scar Symmetry,Susperia,New Arch Enemy(not the best but still good),New Opeth,Bloodbath,Suicide Silence,Gojira,The Sword,As Blood Runs Black,The Red Chord,Amon Amarth,New Overkill,lots more........

And I hate to say this but, The new Metallica has a couple of kick ass tunes! All Nightmare Long=

 

[JamesPeters]

It's a good album. I don't care if it sounds like their earlier stuff; I care if it sounds good. I didn't care that RTL didn't sound like KEA, or that MOP didn't sound like RTL (despite a fair bit of similarities), or that AJFA didn't sound like MOP. So why would I care if DM doesn't sound like any of those albums. Metallica is one of few bands from the "age of thrash" whose sound and direction changed significantly from album to album, and that's part of what earned them so many fans. If anything, I'd say the similarities between MOP and RTL are what keep fans hoping that Metallica will "return to their roots" and make something along those lines. But it was really only those two albums which had any strong similarity. Pigeon-holing the band to those two albums is a bit ignorant in my opinion.

Arguing about what's "true thrash" and so on is ridiculous. Who cares. Either you like the music or you don't. Especially when half the people arguing what's "true thrash" or not are in their early to mid 20s and didn't grow up around the "thrash boom" in the 80s. While we're at it, let's talk about what "true punk" is. That's an argument full of equally pretentious pontification that spans a couple more decades yet.

Jugg, you can stop hanging off Gary Holt's nutsack already. I like Exodus as much as the next guy, but this music was never meant to sound like Exodus. I like this and I like Exodus too...because they're different. So sue me. For that matter, the Police's "Synchronicity" is still one of my all-time favorite albums. I bet that blows everyone's mind...

As for whether this album will become a "classic" to me, how the hell would I know. It's not 2028 yet is it. Someone mentioned listening to MOP recently and getting goosebumps during certain parts (perhaps it was in the similar thread on HC). Well yeah, with all the nostalgia attached to the album by this point you may get goosebumps if the album still "does it" for you at all. But imagine an album in that style being released today. I have a hard time believing that the younger crowd would eat it up the same way they did when MOP was released some 20ish years ago. As for whether they'd be able to give their old-time fans goosebumps...good luck with that. Talk about a double-edged sword. Trying to recapture a sound they had 20+ years ago means risking the appearance of blatantly copying past material. Again, every previous album they had didn't sound like the one before it. Specifically going for the "vibe" or "sound" of one of their past albums now would be a death knell for them.

Here's how I look at it, in a nutshell: here's another good album for me to add to my collection. I can pretend the last 17 years of Metallica didn't even exist if I want. And since I haven't even written one song in the last 10 years let alone an album, I'm thankful there are bands that still make music that I can appreciate enough to buy (whether it's an old favorite band or a band I'd never even heard of). Trying to hold Metallica up to some measuring stick of their past albums which are heard with nostalgic ears isn't something I consider reasonable.

 

[gibson5413]

I like it so far. I will say that it is their best effort since The Black Album (which was my least favorite up its own release). I am pleasantly surprised up to this point. I like the fact it doesn't sound like the old stuff. It is too hard and not fair to expect them to release something at the level of their early material. You only experience a new release one time. Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets set the bar so high. It is virtually impossible to eclipse that experience. That being said, Death Magnetic is their best effort in years. Glad to see they are making a big push to be relevant again.

The main problem I have with this release is the production. It is super dry! The guitar tone is . Sustained chords sound great. Palm mutes sound really loose and brittle. I don't expect them to replicate the tone from their earlier material. I'm just confused with the tones they got. They use gear that sounds great in a live room. Perhaps it is Rubin's production. That leads me to my other issue...the production itself. Is it just me or is there clipping all over each tune? My ears start feeling a bit fatigued after listening to 3 songs.

I listened to this at a friends house.Either way, I will buy it over the next couple of weeks.

 

[Anonymous]

It's a good album. I don't care if it sounds like their earlier stuff; I care if it sounds good. I didn't care that RTL didn't sound like KEA, or that MOP didn't sound like RTL (despite a fair bit of similarities), or that AJFA didn't sound like MOP. So why would I care if DM doesn't sound like any of those albums. Metallica is one of few bands from the "age of thrash" whose sound and direction changed significantly from album to album, and that's part of what earned them so many fans. If anything, I'd say the similarities between MOP and RTL are what keep fans hoping that Metallica will "return to their roots" and make something along those lines. But it was really only those two albums which had any strong similarity. Pigeon-holing the band to those two albums is a bit ignorant in my opinion.

Arguing about what's "true thrash" and so on is ridiculous. Who cares. Either you like the music or you don't. Especially when half the people arguing what's "true thrash" or not are in their early to mid 20s and didn't grow up around the "thrash boom" in the 80s. While we're at it, let's talk about what "true punk" is. That's an argument full of equally pretentious pontification that spans a couple more decades yet.

Jugg, you can stop hanging off Gary Holt's nutsack already. I like Exodus as much as the next guy, but this music was never meant to sound like Exodus. I like this and I like Exodus too...because they're different. So sue me. For that matter, the Police's "Synchronicity" is still one of my all-time favorite albums. I bet that blows everyone's mind...

As for whether this album will become a "classic" to me, how the hell would I know. It's not 2028 yet is it. Someone mentioned listening to MOP recently and getting goosebumps during certain parts (perhaps it was in the similar thread on HC). Well yeah, with all the nostalgia attached to the album by this point you may get goosebumps if the album still "does it" for you at all. But imagine an album in that style being released today. I have a hard time believing that the younger crowd would eat it up the same way they did when MOP was released some 20ish years ago. As for whether they'd be able to give their old-time fans goosebumps...good luck with that. Talk about a double-edged sword. Trying to recapture a sound they had 20+ years ago means risking the appearance of blatantly copying past material. Again, every previous album they had didn't sound like the one before it. Specifically going for the "vibe" or "sound" of one of their past albums now would be a death knell for them.

Here's how I look at it, in a nutshell: here's another good album for me to add to my collection. I can pretend the last 17 years of Metallica didn't even exist if I want. And since I haven't even written one song in the last 10 years let alone an album, I'm thankful there are bands that still make music that I can appreciate enough to buy (whether it's an old favorite band or a band I'd never even heard of). Trying to hold Metallica up to some measuring stick of their past albums which are heard with nostalgic ears isn't something I consider reasonable.

C'mon James! Out with it already... Tell us how you REALLY feel and STOP beating around the bush.... Sheesh...

Steve

 

[gravfed]

It's a good album. I don't care if it sounds like their earlier stuff; I care if it sounds good. I didn't care that RTL didn't sound like KEA, or that MOP didn't sound like RTL (despite a fair bit of similarities), or that AJFA didn't sound like MOP. So why would I care if DM doesn't sound like any of those albums. Metallica is one of few bands from the "age of thrash" whose sound and direction changed significantly from album to album, and that's part of what earned them so many fans. If anything, I'd say the similarities between MOP and RTL are what keep fans hoping that Metallica will "return to their roots" and make something along those lines. But it was really only those two albums which had any strong similarity. Pigeon-holing the band to those two albums is a bit ignorant in my opinion.

Arguing about what's "true thrash" and so on is ridiculous. Who cares. Either you like the music or you don't. Especially when half the people arguing what's "true thrash" or not are in their early to mid 20s and didn't grow up around the "thrash boom" in the 80s. While we're at it, let's talk about what "true punk" is. That's an argument full of equally pretentious pontification that spans a couple more decades yet.

Jugg, you can stop hanging off Gary Holt's nutsack already. I like Exodus as much as the next guy, but this music was never meant to sound like Exodus. I like this and I like Exodus too...because they're different. So sue me. For that matter, the Police's "Synchronicity" is still one of my all-time favorite albums. I bet that blows everyone's mind...

As for whether this album will become a "classic" to me, how the hell would I know. It's not 2028 yet is it. Someone mentioned listening to MOP recently and getting goosebumps during certain parts (perhaps it was in the similar thread on HC). Well yeah, with all the nostalgia attached to the album by this point you may get goosebumps if the album still "does it" for you at all. But imagine an album in that style being released today. I have a hard time believing that the younger crowd would eat it up the same way they did when MOP was released some 20ish years ago. As for whether they'd be able to give their old-time fans goosebumps...good luck with that. Talk about a double-edged sword. Trying to recapture a sound they had 20+ years ago means risking the appearance of blatantly copying past material. Again, every previous album they had didn't sound like the one before it. Specifically going for the "vibe" or "sound" of one of their past albums now would be a death knell for them.

Here's how I look at it, in a nutshell: here's another good album for me to add to my collection. I can pretend the last 17 years of Metallica didn't even exist if I want. And since I haven't even written one song in the last 10 years let alone an album, I'm thankful there are bands that still make music that I can appreciate enough to buy (whether it's an old favorite band or a band I'd never even heard of). Trying to hold Metallica up to some measuring stick of their past albums which are heard with nostalgic ears isn't something I consider reasonable.

+1 Very nicely said. Either you think its good music or you don't. I dig it.

 

[generalgrievous]

It's a good album. I don't care if it sounds like their earlier stuff; I care if it sounds good. I didn't care that RTL didn't sound like KEA, or that MOP didn't sound like RTL (despite a fair bit of similarities), or that AJFA didn't sound like MOP. So why would I care if DM doesn't sound like any of those albums. Metallica is one of few bands from the "age of thrash" whose sound and direction changed significantly from album to album, and that's part of what earned them so many fans. If anything, I'd say the similarities between MOP and RTL are what keep fans hoping that Metallica will "return to their roots" and make something along those lines. But it was really only those two albums which had any strong similarity. Pigeon-holing the band to those two albums is a bit ignorant in my opinion.

Arguing about what's "true thrash" and so on is ridiculous. Who cares. Either you like the music or you don't. Especially when half the people arguing what's "true thrash" or not are in their early to mid 20s and didn't grow up around the "thrash boom" in the 80s. While we're at it, let's talk about what "true punk" is. That's an argument full of equally pretentious pontification that spans a couple more decades yet.

Jugg, you can stop hanging off Gary Holt's nutsack already. I like Exodus as much as the next guy, but this music was never meant to sound like Exodus. I like this and I like Exodus too...because they're different. So sue me. For that matter, the Police's "Synchronicity" is still one of my all-time favorite albums. I bet that blows everyone's mind...

As for whether this album will become a "classic" to me, how the hell would I know. It's not 2028 yet is it. Someone mentioned listening to MOP recently and getting goosebumps during certain parts (perhaps it was in the similar thread on HC). Well yeah, with all the nostalgia attached to the album by this point you may get goosebumps if the album still "does it" for you at all. But imagine an album in that style being released today. I have a hard time believing that the younger crowd would eat it up the same way they did when MOP was released some 20ish years ago. As for whether they'd be able to give their old-time fans goosebumps...good luck with that. Talk about a double-edged sword. Trying to recapture a sound they had 20+ years ago means risking the appearance of blatantly copying past material. Again, every previous album they had didn't sound like the one before it. Specifically going for the "vibe" or "sound" of one of their past albums now would be a death knell for them.

Here's how I look at it, in a nutshell: here's another good album for me to add to my collection. I can pretend the last 17 years of Metallica didn't even exist if I want. And since I haven't even written one song in the last 10 years let alone an album, I'm thankful there are bands that still make music that I can appreciate enough to buy (whether it's an old favorite band or a band I'd never even heard of). Trying to hold Metallica up to some measuring stick of their past albums which are heard with nostalgic ears isn't something I consider reasonable.

That's so completely right it's not even funny. Metallica are what they are because they evolve. I mean MOP is great, but we only need ONE of it. I'd much rather something new which I like. I think the new album revisits the style of the old stuff and does it differently with a great groove. Is it better? I don't know, but it's fresh, new and adventurous. They don't rest on their laurels. What in god's name does FORCED even mean? Bands aspire to something with each album, how is any more forced than any other? This is about as heavy/fast/whatever as St. Anger, but MUCH better. Was St. Anger forced? It's FAR better than the Formation of Damnation IMO, but I'm taking them on their merits as albums, not by how well they fill a niche I've created in my head for the band.

Just my .02c

 

[j666]

dear metallica,

i'm a long-time fan of yours. i always wondered what i would say if i actually met you in person. after years and years of deliberation, i came up with a solid statement that encompasses my love, admiration and respect for you...

STOP! RETIRE! PLEEEEASE!

well, that pretty much sums it up.

regards,
jason smith

 

[jkdsteve]

dear metallica,

i'm a long-time fan of yours. i always wondered what i would say if i actually met you in person. after years and years of deliberation, i came up with a solid statement that encompasses my love, admiration and respect for you...

STOP! RETIRE! PLEEEEASE!

well, that pretty much sums it up.

regards,
jason smith

Dear jason,
who the fuck are you and why should we make out music by your expectations?

Sincerely,

Metallica

 

[j666]

dear metallica,

i'm a long-time fan of yours. i always wondered what i would say if i actually met you in person. after years and years of deliberation, i came up with a solid statement that encompasses my love, admiration and respect for you...

STOP! RETIRE! PLEEEEASE!

well, that pretty much sums it up.

regards,
jason smith

Dear jason,
who the fuck are you and why should we make out music by your expectations?

Sincerely,

Metallica

dear metallica,
a fan...plain and simple. i'm also a musician and understand that you make music for yourself, first. i also understand that sometimes you alienate certain fans and that is an inevitability of music. i also understand that this your job and you gotta put food on your table, even if your lifestyle requires an unecessary amount of money. i also understand that I AM ENTITLED TO MY OWN OPINION, as you are yourself.
so in my honest opinion, stop, please.

"go against the grain until the end."
-jason

 

[headlessdeadguy]

Jason,
Smoke a fatty and listen to "All Nightmare Long". I did this last night and listened to it 4 times. It kicks ass
Sincerly,
Mike