zewango
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I could listen to EVH all day long.
Metallica, John Mayer, Green Day - No thank you..............
Metallica, John Mayer, Green Day - No thank you..............
MisterBulbous
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thenine":2q5ef1gd said:
Well, I think it's easy to forget that VH 1 came out 33 YEARS AGO! Seems impossible to have been that long ago. I subscribe to the theory that you have to be living in the moment to really have a dog in the "getting EVH" fight. For me, I don't get Jimi Hendrix, Eric Clapton, Santana (really don't get!). Probably because I was one or two years old when they hit the scene.
reverymike
Active member
I'll say it. I have every magazine, every poster, photo, article, CD, book, etc having to do with Van Halen. If it was not for him, I would not have picked up the guitar. Period.
He, and the band (both versions) became part of my fabric, my being thru the years. LOVED IT.
Luckily, along the way, I discovered so many other great guitarists and musicians, which have molded me into the player I am today. But, it was EVH who set all that in motion. The tone, the songs, the fire, the humble personality (back then
), the brotherhood that was Van Halen was admirable.
To have the chance to have met him and talked with him on multiple occassions was invaluable to me. He was every bit the 'idol' from my childhood, and I'm grateful I was able to do that prior to the more recent dark years.
To hear that he's in good shape, and recording a new record is pure gold to me. CAN'T WAIT!
He, and the band (both versions) became part of my fabric, my being thru the years. LOVED IT.
Luckily, along the way, I discovered so many other great guitarists and musicians, which have molded me into the player I am today. But, it was EVH who set all that in motion. The tone, the songs, the fire, the humble personality (back then
), the brotherhood that was Van Halen was admirable.To have the chance to have met him and talked with him on multiple occassions was invaluable to me. He was every bit the 'idol' from my childhood, and I'm grateful I was able to do that prior to the more recent dark years.
To hear that he's in good shape, and recording a new record is pure gold to me. CAN'T WAIT!
megamike
Active member
To me Eddies rhythm and lead playing is just so much different that everybody else's. when i would learn a VH song id would always be like" what the fuck was he thinking ,this is so weird"
.it would just blow me away. For example ,the opening riff to IM THE ONE just has such a cool feel to it,to play it correct you really have to feel it like ED did when he wrote it. .im a life long VH fan, always will be.i even like the Sammy years and the porn songs .
.it would just blow me away. For example ,the opening riff to IM THE ONE just has such a cool feel to it,to play it correct you really have to feel it like ED did when he wrote it. .im a life long VH fan, always will be.i even like the Sammy years and the porn songs .
zewango
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danyeo":26qhrgl2 said:
The Austin City Limits version is unreal...
So is the outfit he wore
chunktone
Active member
King Guitar":h2sxolel said:Hey played on Beat It for gods sake, what else do you need.
ps: he did some kind of card/parlor trick with two hands on the neck which was a bit different when we whipped it out.
Ya... that's ok, but he's no John Mayer!
Joeytpg
Active member
wow, some people have tolerance problems. Why do you need to come down on me for liking John Mayer and not getting EVH? what's the point?
Apples and Oranges
Apples and Oranges
irondeth21
Member
Well when you start a post about it on a forum with a large group of guys that love 70's and 80's hard rock you kind of bring it on yourself dude. And I don't think anyone got to crazy about it...
Joeytpg
Active member
who the fuck cares man. So people ain't able to RESPECT other people's opinions AND TASTES?
most of the guys here have said very cool things, and I appreciate that tho
most of the guys here have said very cool things, and I appreciate that tho
degenaro
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Well there is a difference between not getting it and not liking I guess. EVH, just Hendrix, George Benson, Pat Martino, Wes Montgomery, Charlie Christian, etc...all forged their way against what was popular and or expected. Plus in the process they inspired countless kids to pick up the guitar.
I loved EVH rhythm playing from day one...but did not care for his leads untul Push Comes To Shove. Back then I needed more melody and less frenzy which I found with guys like Michael Schenker or Uli Roth.
So if you don't gel with EVH playing...all good, but do spent some time going deep as Ant suggests.
Take a look at how he uses harmonic minor in Push Comes To Shove. Take a look how he picks from the finger joints, notice how when he speeds up he literally speeds up like stepping on an accelerater instead of playing triplets, 16th, 16th triplets.
gear...none of the guys that inspired masses waied for some one to come up with would be their sonic finger print, but rather found work arounds for whatever they had on hand to do what they heard inside their earhole.
Lastly ...Beat It...Quincy hiring EVH for that solo that busted the door wide open for distorted guitar on radio...when there still was a time where radio made or broke artists.
Plus that solo IMO is so chock full of all that is cool about EVH.
It has the tapped and bedn harmonics, it has the wide interval stuff with the speed up timing, it has the blues box on steroids stuff, cool as hell whammy stuff and best of all it fits the tune wonderfully.
I loved EVH rhythm playing from day one...but did not care for his leads untul Push Comes To Shove. Back then I needed more melody and less frenzy which I found with guys like Michael Schenker or Uli Roth.
So if you don't gel with EVH playing...all good, but do spent some time going deep as Ant suggests.
Take a look at how he uses harmonic minor in Push Comes To Shove. Take a look how he picks from the finger joints, notice how when he speeds up he literally speeds up like stepping on an accelerater instead of playing triplets, 16th, 16th triplets.
gear...none of the guys that inspired masses waied for some one to come up with would be their sonic finger print, but rather found work arounds for whatever they had on hand to do what they heard inside their earhole.
Lastly ...Beat It...Quincy hiring EVH for that solo that busted the door wide open for distorted guitar on radio...when there still was a time where radio made or broke artists.
Plus that solo IMO is so chock full of all that is cool about EVH.
It has the tapped and bedn harmonics, it has the wide interval stuff with the speed up timing, it has the blues box on steroids stuff, cool as hell whammy stuff and best of all it fits the tune wonderfully.
degenaro
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Seriously? On-line...no...there is no opinion respect...everybody types a mofo of a solo...Joeytpg":2ym507sr said:
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Pickup
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No really you should look at it this way. Why should everybody get John Mayer just because you do. It goes both ways. For the most part it all evens out.
JakeAC5253
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irondeth21":22o1nzah said:
As far as I can tell, he is asking the group of people most qualified to answer his question.
Joeytpg
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Pickup":20voj16a said:
When have I tried to jam John Mayer down your or anybody's throat?
Joeytpg
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JakeAC5253":1v7etmrw said:
BINGO.... if I went to a John Mayer or a Green Day or hell Lady Gaga's forum and bash EVH, Fine, I would just be BASHING and talking shit..... but I came to the right place to try and get others opinions on this, and maybe get shown the light.
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robertkoa
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bsp01":x0vdytk5 said:
Eddie was/is also a great Rhythm player ( contrasted in this Vid ) and the Band had a kind of progressive rock feel to it while still playing kick ass rock, I initially ( foolishly ) though He was a bit overrated until "* Beat It " and I actually listened to his Rhythm Feel etc., I just hadn't listened that carefully or even listened to a whole CD . I thought the arrangements of the few Cover Tunes they did were brilliant also.
And lots of guys make good points on originality , an identifiable sound and style, obvious time feel, creativity, as well as the obvious effortless virtuosity, harmonics, and sheer authority with which he played .
A few years back - the guitar stuff at the end of the movie "Twister " was so cool , tones and phrasing , emotion etc etc that I actually looked in the credits to see who the F it was ! I never do that !
And it was EVH- playing in a style I had never heard him do before ! - really beautiful ,atmospheric stuff, more like we'd expect from EJ or someone ( but not EJs tones or general style either).
This guy can do a lot of stuff we haven't heard him do yet , and definitely made his impact- hopefully he'll come back and expand even more....................................
" Beat It " * One of the Greatest Rock and/or FUSION solos of all time on ANY instrument when you listen carefully IMO.
After this - I realized that he WAS as great as everyone had said.
I'm actually more a Fan of say HendriX or EJ or Benson but EVH's greatness is undeniable , and already there as part of History .
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Rogue
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My favorite thing about the Beat It solo is the resolution. It's a cool EVH trick bag solo, but I always feel it's always on the edge of just falling apart. It's held together and the resolution just brings it all together and complete.degenaro":3kt9lcmy said:
That's another talent of Eddie's....resolving a solo. He has some great ones.
MisterBulbous
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degenaro":1uczqzby said:
Ed.
You make a good point about the "fan" picking that eddie did. I can't explain it as well as you, but he has that kinda awkward locked-finger approach and the pick attack sounds so cool, slightly floppy, and rhythmic. Most of this doesn't come to mind until you are listening with intense focus on the nuances. I remember GW did one of those things where a guitarists rates other music he has/hasn't heard. When they played Spanish Fly for Dimeola I believe he said something like "don't know who this is, but he has an incredible grasp of the flamenco technique". Of course, Dimeola didn't know that Ed was cheating so-to-speak.
skoora
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Joeytpg":skyoq169 said:
C'mon man, lighten the fuck up. It's not like the dude railed on Mayer, just a little sarcastic jab. Shit, he threw in the smiley to show it's all in fun. You should be amazed this thread has gone as well as it has.
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Gitfiddler
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well, eddie did get some great sounds out of vox amps