Fuck SweetWater........ They have been destroying and have destroyed the American Music Industry : (

[The~Kid]

It’s “like a monopoly”, but it’s not a monopoly. Got it.

If you or anybody else can't point to a monopoly law that's been broken, there's no case to make IMHO.

IOW, until evidence is presented, the thread is based on feelings.

The numbers and maths are there. Its not that complicated.


These are just basic numbers.


On average SweetWater is estimated to sell 465 million to 550 million a year in guitars online given estimates, deductive reasoning and available information.


Online sales given percentages are 720 million to 800 million a year for guitars in the industry.


In either scenario conservative or loose estimate SweetWater would be considered a Monopoly as they would own more than 50% of the market in new guitar sales online.

 

[Monkey Man]

I'm not disputing the numbers bro'.

In any industry, someone has to be on-top / the most-successful, no? In this case, it might well be Sweetwater.

Has the company broken any law 'though? If it's provable, it'd be in-court right-now.

 

[The~Kid]

But ... you don't possess any of these skills. It'd be like Donald Trump trying to solve a problem with his liberal agenda.

Common sense and basic maths aren't possessed by anyone. They are self evident

 

[Monkey Man]

Well all you'd have to do then is find a law firm that understands common sense and basic math and take 'em to court.

Think about it:
Wouldn't any of its competitors have done this if it were feasible? I mean, they'd have far more motivation to do so than you or I.

 

[Monkey Man]

That's not even to mention the industry watchdog.

 

[The~Kid]

I'm not disputing the numbers bro'.

In any industry, someone has to be on-top / the most-successful, no? In this case, it might well be Sweetwater.

Has the company broken any law 'though? If it's provable, it'd be in-court right-now.

Well all you'd have to do then is find a law firm that understands common sense and basic math and take 'em to court.

Think about it:
Wouldn't any of its competitors have done this if it were feasible? I mean, they'd have far more motivation to do so than you or I.

That's not even to mention the industry watchdog.

In that case I yield to that logic and what you're saying using inductive reasoning.


But deductive reason begs to differ........ Such as black holes were discovered using deductive reasoning before we had the tools to use inductive reasoning to actually see them or observe them truly.......


By current laws that define a Monopoly and under this premise using inductive reasoning SweetWater isn't breaking any law or is an actual Monopoly......... And this is 100% true and I agree with this 100%.


And well I will just leave it at that and honestly this is frankly above my pay grade...... And I have presented both sound and cogent arguments in a deductive manner vs inductive reasoning.


Given that I hope this was a healthy debate amongst everyone and well yeah...... What else is there to say really

 

[Monkey Man]

All-good bro'.

You're making sense, as much as that may be shocking to some.

As I suggested earlier 'though, the second Sweetwater steps out-of-line, you can bet your bottom dollar a watchdog or another business with pecuniary interests will step in and make 'em pay.

 

[The~Kid]

All-good bro'.

You're making sense, as much as that may be shocking to some.

As I suggested earlier 'though, the second Sweetwater steps out-of-line, you can bet your bottom dollar a watchdog or another business with pecuniary interests will step in and make 'em pay.

Yup

 

[The~Kid]

And one thing old, old , old..... And wise men..........



Men from where the West...... meets the East...... or where the East meets the West......


Or vice versa and back and forth and in between within and without...... Always relative of course.....



In a sense what such men taught me in general........Especially when playing Chess......





Is that sometimes you cant win a battle.....



Or win a game.......


But not losing...... And defending what you got is as good or better than winning sometimes.



Ultimately for a time being....... You can yeah not win.......



But you could also not lose......


And defend what you got and what is important........ And that's better than winning sometimes

 

[Stumplegriltskin]

These guys are not happy with this thread.

 

[311boogieman]

If you or anybody else can't point to a monopoly law that's been broken, there's no case to make IMHO.

IOW, until evidence is presented, the thread is based on feelings.

Agreed. There is only 1 person in this thread, I believe, that feels like a monopoly law has been broken

 

[The~Kid]

Agreed. There is only 1 person in this thread, I believe, that feels like a monopoly law has been broken

Hhhhhmmmmm.........


Yup...... Like Amazon breaks no Monopoly laws too..... Exactly like that *_*


Using double think.....

 

[The~Kid]

When you have all these TGP types....... And you know who you are.

Coming in like rabid dogs foaming at the mouth..... To come come protect the honor of a Childrens Hospital..... Oh wait no not a Childrens Hospital but Amazon/SweetWater.


You know some shits up

 

[garrettprs]

Jesus. Watching this clown's math on page 9 reminded me of:

 

[311boogieman]

Its pretty much the Amazon of the guitar industry.......

Its gotta die or else the industry will die IMO...... Or more parts of the industry will......



Its time to stop buying shit from Sweetwater..... Nvm the slave labor like conditions and a 3rd world America they have made within America to run the business and sustain it in Fort Wayne Indiana...... Its just the last choice I consider when buying gear due to the business itself and their practices.


Me personally just refrain from buying from them and having worked in businesses that work with SweetWater they are simply the fucking worst and anyone from Fender, Gibson, Martin and their main clients will tell you the same.......


But they really have no other option but to suck it up and bend over and get fucked up the ass by them given how big they have gotten.......


IMO vendors/companies should just step away from them and find other alternatives because pretty much everyone and even the top guns like Fender, Gibson or Martin are having the tail wag the dog and it's just the most retarded thing ever...... They simply are one of the most disgusting entities/businesses in America today IMO.


Anyway that's it and well fuck SweetWater

Right on......


I get but SweetWater ain't Reverb and who the fuck is talking about Reverb..... The thread title is regarding SweetWaters BS and how they managed to create a 3rd world country within America and slave labor in Fort Wayne Indiana.....


So SweetWater could become a monopoly amongst online sales and sales in general in the industry and in the "free market" of the music industry which doesn't even exist in reality thanks to these fucking hicks...... And as said establish a 3rd World Country within Fort Wayne Indiana



Pretty much the Amazon or worse if that is possible of the music industry.....At the least Reverb supports alternatives vs the POS that SweetWater is..... Its not perfect but Reverb seems to be a better alternative than bowing down to fucking fogey hicks from SweetWater in Fort Wayne Indiana....... NVM the fuckers are destroying the industry.....


Shouldn't the fuckers be farming or whatever the fuck they do out there vs sucking the life out of the music industry from the rest of America and the music industry in general.




Maybe there should be more Reverbs

Yup.....


Nvm actual numbers of Fort Wayne Indianas hourly wage vs the National minimum wage...... No fucking wonder SweetWater is able to operate a 3rd World Country within America because relative to the rest of America it's actually below a 3rd World Country...... Outside of farming or whatever the fuck else they do there.....


Fuckers in Indiana make pretty much half as the national average with them barely meeting the Federal Minimum Wage...... Just as I fucking thought.



Nvm all these illegal fuckers they hire at SweetWater I imagine and wouldnt be surprised if they do to squeeze out more juice out of the American Music Industry that they suck the life out of and destroy.......



I mean who the fuck is buying anything from these fuckers nowadays.......... at SweetWater



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Yup and SweetWater.....


And fucks in Fort Wayne Indiana have every concept of MONEY and such "economics" they do there....... Constructing a 3rd World Country within America.......


At SweetWater......... in Fort Wayne Indiana.......


Constructing a monopoly within the music industry........





And destroying the American Music Industry in the process...... And ain't that the fucking truth that SweetWater is somehow worse than Amazon in that sense and absolutely is

I'm sorry.....

But I'm not some well to do fuck..... That can afford to travel to pretty much the otherside of America..... Or go to Hawaii or whatever BS lame crap people who shop at SweetWater/Amazon/Whole Foods or other gay shit like that go to........



Like most average Americans I figure and if I had money to travel why the fuck would I go to SweetWater in Fort Wayne Indiana and as said a 3rd World Country within America relative to anywhere else in America or the world

Interesting perspectives

 

[311boogieman]

Constructing a monopoly within the music industry........

By current laws that define a Monopoly and under this premise using inductive reasoning SweetWater isn't breaking any law or is an actual Monopoly......... And this is 100% true and I agree with this 100%.

Troll

 

[311boogieman]

Given that I hope this was a healthy debate amongst everyone and well yeah...... What else is there to say really

Impossible with you. Good day.

 

[The~Kid]

Troll

I know you are but what am I

 

[napalmdeath]

Common sense and basic maths aren't possessed by anyone. They are self evident

I'm afraid common sense isn't something you should be preaching. You're so far out in left field, I'm not sure you're even from planet earth. You should unplug your keyboard and take a vacation or something. You just ramble and babble, and rarely have anything coherent to say.

 

[IndyWS6]

Two things:
1) it’s clear the word “monopoly” doesn’t mean what the OP thinks it means. Business success and monopolistic practices are entirely different

2) The irony of someone who can barely articulate a coherent thought arguing that everyone else lacks “critical thinking” skills is hilarious