Moshaholic
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university81":29g4bkyl said:
Ich scheize mien hosen!
What He said...
Ich scheize mien hosen!
What He said...
Moshaholic
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blackba":257asfed said:
I got my JVM 210's for $1180 ea. NIB and My JVM 410 (Newer version with knobs bolted to chassis) for $1600 NIB.
Chris O
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Mine blew a pair of tubes the day I went to sell it (JVM210). Beyond that "minor" issue which reared it's head at JUST THE RIGHT TIME (during the demo 
), it sounded great. I'll give it that. Nice amp, and one of the better used buys out there, but for a little more, there's Splawn (for one), along with a plethora of other more boutique-y amps that might not do all the JVM can, but do ONE THING very well.
), it sounded great. I'll give it that. Nice amp, and one of the better used buys out there, but for a little more, there's Splawn (for one), along with a plethora of other more boutique-y amps that might not do all the JVM can, but do ONE THING very well.
dfrattaroli
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Love my 210. Got it for $800 used in new condish. If it sounds good, it is good. Mine sounds excellent. The rest is bullshit.
Coopster
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It's popular at my house. And I got mine on a pretty sweet trade.
blackba
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Moshaholic":j80umk6l said:
And you can get a DSL50 or DSL100 for about $400-500. Even at $800 that someone paid for a used JVM210, is it twice the amp of a DSL100?
I will also add at $1180, I would just get a used JVM410 for the added channels. I am not saying the JVM210 is a bad amp, never played one honestly, but in my view it kind of falls in no man's land price wise....
dfrattaroli
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blackba":j2eadjia said:
Never played a DSL. Although it seems that currently, prices are more like $700 on ebay.
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155
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had a dsl and a tsl..to me the jvm does what im looking for better then both of those by a long shot...thats high gain btw..great amp imo
SFW
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Why aren't they more popular? Because there are other amps that cover that tone and then some. A good portion of the populaces has simply moved beyond Marshall as an option. I love a good Marshall, but their QC absolutely sucks.
boost
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I don't want the Marshall, but now I want a Pelham Blue Jr!!! 
Moshaholic
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boost":2exvgmji said:I don't want the Marshall, but now I want a Pelham Blue Jr!!!
Ya you and me both!
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joepete77
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i had no idea that jvm's were 3500 , I no I have seen them used frequently for around a grand which is what it cost me in mods alone with the names above.romanianreaper":1sudgttk said:
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bigangryguitar
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I think it is a severly underrated amp. I think they come pretty close to the boutique stuff out there and do cover a ton of ground. From what I hear with a few simple diy mods they hang with anything easily. I would have no issues owning one of these. As far as compared to the DSL's I personally think they sound worlds better but that's just me.
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Gainzilla
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Agreed on all points Shanebigangryguitar":2sa9p731 said:
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Gainfreak
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It's just the nature of the beast. Whenever a new amp comes out it gets ragged on by some people. Then Many people read all the nonsense about said amp and then some people start buying into the rumors and there you have it.Dimebag11":pfng5gn1 said:
Ive watch this happen time and time again and Ive even bought into some of it at time lol
As with any amplifier you will either like it or not. I think the JVM's are fantastic amps stock or modded.
The real funny thing about what Ive just written is that in time, when the JVM goes away and the new Dog amp comes out, watch how things reverse themselves...... People will be saying how freaking great they were and the whole dynamic will change
Don't believe me? Just watch.
Ive watched it happen with many amps including the Boogie mark series, the Marshall 2205/2210 diode clippers and most recently the DSL.
All the best!
~R~
racerevlon
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Here's my fundamental list of gripes with the JVM:
In 2007 I bought one of the first JVM 410H heads for $1600 out the door, which was going price back then. Suddenly, when the 2-channel models were introduced, instead of being $1100-$1200, which would have been about right, Marshall slid the whole pricing structure up, making the 2-channel versions occupy the $1400-$1600 range, and made MAP on the 410H something like $2299.00. So without any differences, overnight a $1600 410H costs $2299? WTF? That's just cheating.
After using my 410H for a while, I found that my 12-channel head was really only a three-channel head: Clean/Green, Crunch/Orange, and OD1/Orange. Every other channel/mode was unusable/sounded like ass.
If they're SUCH great amps, why have they depreciated so poorly? You can now get a 410H for less than 1/2 of MAP on the used market. The 2-channel equivalents haven't dropped that much. Could it be because the JVM410H simply is NOT a $2300 amp?
YMMV,
In 2007 I bought one of the first JVM 410H heads for $1600 out the door, which was going price back then. Suddenly, when the 2-channel models were introduced, instead of being $1100-$1200, which would have been about right, Marshall slid the whole pricing structure up, making the 2-channel versions occupy the $1400-$1600 range, and made MAP on the 410H something like $2299.00. So without any differences, overnight a $1600 410H costs $2299? WTF? That's just cheating.
After using my 410H for a while, I found that my 12-channel head was really only a three-channel head: Clean/Green, Crunch/Orange, and OD1/Orange. Every other channel/mode was unusable/sounded like ass.
If they're SUCH great amps, why have they depreciated so poorly? You can now get a 410H for less than 1/2 of MAP on the used market. The 2-channel equivalents haven't dropped that much. Could it be because the JVM410H simply is NOT a $2300 amp?
YMMV,
Gainfreak
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It's all relative. You think the JVM sucks as and you stated your opinion and that's awesome!.racerevlon":efepdtt0 said:
I also agree that the pricing is HIGH but its the sign of the times and still affordable by todays standards.
I agree with some of what you said, but I can get a stock one to scream for what I like and My modded one is special to me.
Again, there are always going to be differences in opinion. The JVM wont make your list of great amps and that's cool but it doesn't change the fact that it is your opinion and others will feel differently regardless of the price point. The reason why amps depreciate in value has a lot to do with many things including posts and reviews like yours.( Not ragging on you as its the nature of the beast!!)
Ive seen it happen many times. Now 5 years from now if when they are discontinued watch and see what happens. you'll have a ton of guys saying how great these amps were and that they have no idea why every ragged on them. Then watched the value go up hahaha.
I just watched a 50 watt Marshall 2205 go for $1000 plus shipping on e-bay. In the 90's you couldn't give those amps away and the diode clipping rag stories on the net at that time were legendary! Then you have guys like Michael schenker and John Norum playing them and everyones minds change hahaha!
It's just strange watching things like this happen!!
All the best!
~R~
Michi
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Wow, all this talk about the JVM in general has made me GAS for a JVM205H. Just a little bit only... ;-). Would it be easier/better sounding/GASGASGASexcuse here than the amp I have now?!
When we started the band I now play in about two years ago our other guitarist had a 410H. The sound he got from was an 'ok' type of sound, can't remember which channel and mode really. Something in the JCM800 ballpark I think.
I recall he had some issues with it, mainly a big big hum when boosting with an OD, and sometimes the footswitch just died on him in the middle of a song. He ended up selling it and getting a Vintage Modern 2466 (which he later traded for a 6100LM hehe).
The few times I noodled around with the 410H I couldn't find a sound I would've been content with. Every time it was almost there but not fully. Now with his 6100LM w/ Svetlana 6L6's or my 6100 w/JJEL34's we're a lot closer to the sound we both are after.
Oh well, after writing all of the above my GAS for the 205H has almost gone
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When we started the band I now play in about two years ago our other guitarist had a 410H. The sound he got from was an 'ok' type of sound, can't remember which channel and mode really. Something in the JCM800 ballpark I think.
I recall he had some issues with it, mainly a big big hum when boosting with an OD, and sometimes the footswitch just died on him in the middle of a song. He ended up selling it and getting a Vintage Modern 2466 (which he later traded for a 6100LM hehe).
The few times I noodled around with the 410H I couldn't find a sound I would've been content with. Every time it was almost there but not fully. Now with his 6100LM w/ Svetlana 6L6's or my 6100 w/JJEL34's we're a lot closer to the sound we both are after.
Oh well, after writing all of the above my GAS for the 205H has almost gone
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leib10
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I just recall the 410 having a somewhat thin sound. It was really easy to dial in, it's just that the tones were lacking when compared to some other higher-end amps. I could see it being the go-to amp for someone who is playing a lot of different styles live or can only afford one amp that will do everything decently but nothing exceptionally well.
thiswaythatway
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Why are they not more popular here?
Because they're not expensive enough. Gotta be at least 3k to have some mojo.
They're not made in California.
Tone Merchants doesn't sell them.
Pete Thorn hasn't done a demo with one yet.
George Lynch never recorded with one.
They are readily available in most any Guitar Center or Sam Ash. That's a sure GAS killer to anyone looking for an amp to "GIVE" them tones which of course has nothing to do at all with the actual players abilities.
And yes, they're not already modded.
Last but not least, would you want an amp made by these guys?
Because they're not expensive enough. Gotta be at least 3k to have some mojo.
They're not made in California.
Tone Merchants doesn't sell them.
Pete Thorn hasn't done a demo with one yet.
George Lynch never recorded with one.
They are readily available in most any Guitar Center or Sam Ash. That's a sure GAS killer to anyone looking for an amp to "GIVE" them tones which of course has nothing to do at all with the actual players abilities.
And yes, they're not already modded.
Last but not least, would you want an amp made by these guys?