Cabinet for EVH 5150 III Stealth 100W

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Dude, you have seen the fucking correspondence from the people at both Fender and Celestion and why they did it. Take your stupid fucking legal bullshit up with them. If you want to throw your lot in with the dude who has the distinction of being even more fucking stupid than Fat ass Dan that's on you, but a spade is a spade. Jesus fucking christ.
I have no skin in the game and I don't care. I just find it hard to believe that people find it objectionable or unbelievable that different countries have different laws, standards or testing for electrical products.

A company followed the law, took some samples and made an average? OH MY GOODNESS! Next there'll be tears over mean, median and mode.
 
I have no skin in the game and I don't care. I just find it hard to believe that people find it objectionable or unbelievable that different countries have different laws, standards or testing for electrical products.

A company followed the law, took some samples and made an average? OH MY GOODNESS! Next there'll be tears over mean, median and mode.
Dude, no one here gives a fuck about that. You need to address that with Celestion. Or Fender. Multiple reps from both companies have said these are not 20w speakers, that's why the cab is rated 100 watts. That's the end of it as far as any rational person is concerned.
 
Dude, no one here gives a fuck about that. You need to address that with Celestion. Or Fender. Multiple reps from both companies have said these are not 20w speakers, that's why the cab is rated 100 watts. That's the end of it as far as any rational person is concerned.

Most people would look at a website with a spec sheet and assume it to be true; and usually it probably would be. I think that's what most rational people would do and expect in that situation.
 
Most people would look at a website with a spec sheet and assume it to be true; and usually it probably would be. I think that's what most rational people would do and expect in that situation.
You don't think they would wonder how a cabinet with four 20 watt speakers could be rated for 100 watts ? Maybe ask some guys that might know what the deal is ? I mean if Greenbacks haven't been 20w since like 1967, it's clearly not a secret. It's also very unlikely they're run afoul of any laws. Lawyers would surely have been all over it by now, right ?
 
This says everything anyone needs to know about how retarded you are. You'd take a known incorrect for historical and marketing purposes spec sheet over the word of the person who actually designed and built the piece of equipment. JFC, you can't get more asinine and utterly stupid than that. I'm done dealing with your retardation for the night. I'm out for the rest of the evening/night. Make sure your mommy tucks you in tightly when you go off to dream land so you don't roll out the bed.
Yes just as history has shown....... :yes:


Its best to follow informal statements, proof of nothing as you and others do without any actual proof or evidence of anything and take that for science/maths or a matter of fact. What could go wrong...... I mean it's just speaker wattages in this case, what's the worst that could happen in such instance or in life in general under such logic 🤔


But never mind me. I'm no "expert".
 
Most people would look at a website with a spec sheet and assume it to be true; and usually it probably would be. I think that's what most rational people would do and expect in that situation.
It is what anyone would expect. I am sure they regret putting it incorrectly on there, because they get a shitload of emails when the math doesn't add up.

I think they wanted to make it seem like the evh branded ones were the original 20 watt versions. And they never could be. We use much different materials than we did back then
 
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You don't think they would wonder how a cabinet with four 20 watt speakers could be rated for 100 watts ? Maybe ask some guys that might know what the deal is ? I mean if Greenbacks haven't been 20w since like 1967, it's clearly not a secret. It's also very unlikely they're run afoul of any laws. Lawyers would surely have been all over it by now, right ?
The speakers are made in UK and subject to UK laws.

Where is the cabinet made and finalized? USA? The completed speaker cabinet would be subject to US laws then right?

If that US made completed cab with UK speakers is shipped to Canada who is responsible that it adheres to Canadian law; importer or exporter? I don't have a clue. Nobody else envision a supply chain and the issues that can arise from this?
 
I have no skin in the game and I don't care. I just find it hard to believe that people find it objectionable or unbelievable that different countries have different laws, standards or testing for electrical products.

A company followed the law, took some samples and made an average? OH MY GOODNESS! Next there'll be tears over mean, median and mode.
Stop making sense nerd 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓 🤓
 
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The speakers are made in UK and subject to UK laws.

Where is the cabinet made and finalized? USA? The completed speaker cabinet would be subject to US laws then right?

If that US made completed cab with UK speakers is shipped to Canada who is responsible that it adheres to Canadian law; importer or exporter? I don't have a clue. Nobody else envision a supply chain and the issues that can arise from this?
Again, who fucking cares ? Certainly no enterprising attorneys. And definitely no one here except you.

And the kid is so god damn stupid he thinks your argument somehow validates his. I’m not saying he’s stupid just to be insulting, I mean he’s extraordinarily fucking stupid.
 
Did you guys know that the Celestion G12K-100 is literally the same speaker as the old discontinued G12K-85? When reintroduced to the Celestion lineup, they felt the old 85w rating was 'too conservative' so they rebadged it as the K100. Goes to show you just how scientific these wattage ratings are.
 
Again, who fucking cares ? Certainly no enterprising attorneys. And definitely no one here except you.

And the kid is so god damn stupid he thinks your argument somehow validates his. I’m not saying he’s stupid just to be insulting, I mean he’s extraordinarily fucking stupid.

It was just conversation. All the loose ends are wrapped up. Time to move forward.
 
Anyways I'm pretty sure these were like 999.99 just a month ago...... But after some conversation about Pine in another thread they are at 1150 now.....
 
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Did you guys know that the Celestion G12K-100 is literally the same speaker as the old discontinued G12K-85? When reintroduced to the Celestion lineup, they felt the old 85w rating was 'too conservative' so they rebadged it as the K100. Goes to show you just how scientific these wattage ratings are.
Wait till he ohms out a speaker! The entire speaker is fake news
 
Yes just as history has shown....... :yes:


Its best to follow informal statements, proof of nothing as you and others do without any actual proof or evidence of anything and take that for science/maths or a matter of fact. What could go wrong...... I mean it's just speaker wattages in this case, what's the worst that could happen in such instance or in life in general under such logic 🤔


But never mind me. I'm no "expert".
You're the idiot who in my Bad Cat amp hypothetical said you'd believe the info on an incorrect spec sheet over the word of the person who designed and built the amp.

No you're not an expert, but apparently even when you're unequivocally wrong you'd argue to the death with them. You can't get more stupid than that.

And you had all night to post those thousands of easily obtainable legally binding documents. What happened? Where are they?
 
You're the idiot who in my Bad Cat amp hypothetical said you'd believe the info on an incorrect spec sheet over the word of the person who designed and built the amp.

No you're not an expert, but apparently even when you're unequivocally wrong you'd argue to the death with them. You can't get more stupid than that.

And you had all night to post those thousands of easily obtainable legally binding documents. What happened? Where are they?


I'm not the one here favoring informal statements and hyperbole by you or others as fact. What's alarming to me is that you simply nod your head and say yes to it, eat the grey goop and accept it despite all reasonable logic saying otherwise...... Talk about being a bot/zombie..... Just nodding yes mindlessly to anything. Okay fine and kinda scary :dunno:


Based on your logic one could say "okay dude told me in an email it's 25 watts but provided no actual evidence or documents to prove it so let me run a 25 watt amp through it"..... Based on an informal statement and again no real evidence or proof that these are actually 25 watts and everything says they are infact 20 watts and then you blow a speaker......


Why would Celestion honor the warranty when you used a lower rated speaker and higher wattage amp on purpose?!?!? Because it was read on a forum from you or others and some dude said another dude told him in an email and informal statement vs the official documents provided by Celestion......


Okay fine but at least be aware that is essentially your argument here..... And it's not a very good one if an argument at all and more magical thinking than anything 🪄 🪄 🪄 🪄 🪄


It just doesn't seem wise by any reasonable standards in America or the Civilized World and it doesn't seem wise when it comes to ones gear/rig and basic safety and just basic standards in general..... But you can go on and listen to the "experts".....


Me I'ma just follow common sense and go by official ratings in official documents but hey that's me......


Works for me *_*
 
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The speakers are made in UK and subject to UK laws.

Where is the cabinet made and finalized? USA? The completed speaker cabinet would be subject to US laws then right?

If that US made completed cab with UK speakers is shipped to Canada who is responsible that it adheres to Canadian law; importer or exporter? I don't have a clue. Nobody else envision a supply chain and the issues that can arise from this?
I mean essentially 2+2=4 no matter if you're in the UK or America or on the moon or anywhere on Earth..... Nothing changes that......


Its just basic logic and it's hard to argue the contrary :dunno:
 
I'm not the one here favoring informal statements and hyperbole by you or others as fact. What's alarming to me is that you simply nod your head and say yes to it, eat the grey goop and accept it despite all reasonable logic saying otherwise...... Talk about being a bot/zombie..... Just nodding yes mindlessly to anything. Okay fine and kinda scary :dunno:


Based on your logic one could say "okay dude told me in an email it's 25 watts but provided no actual evidence or documents to prove it so let me run a 25 watt amp through it"..... Based on an informal statement and again no real evidence or proof that these are actually 25 watts and everything says they are infact 20 watts and then you blow a speaker......


Why would Celestion honor the warranty when you used a lower rated speaker and higher wattage amp on purpose?!?!? Because it was read on a forum from you or others and some dude said another dude told him in an email and informal statement vs the official documents provided by Celestion......


Okay fine but at least be aware that is essentially your argument here..... And it's not a very good one if an argument at all and more magical thinking than anything 🪄 🪄 🪄 🪄 🪄


It just doesn't seem wise by any reasonable standards in America or the Civilized World and it doesn't seem wise when it comes to ones gear/rig and basic safety and just basic standards in general..... But you can go on and listen to the "experts".....


Me I'ma just follow common sense and go by official ratings in official documents but hey that's me......


Works for me *_*

Not a word of that can be considered a coherent thought. And I thought Kamala had the monopoly on incoherent word salads...

Anyway, where are those thousands of easily obtainable legally binding documents that you seem to not be able to produce?
 
Not a word of that can be considered a coherent thought. And I thought Kamala had the monopoly on incoherent word salads...

Anyway, where are those thousands of easily obtainable legally binding documents that you seem to not be able to produce?
Right well if you want to use a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt speaker and wonder why the speaker blows its not hard to understand why..... Again nvm that Celestion has zero obligation to cover said speaker under warranty either.


All because you listened to a dude in an email telling another dude on the Internet vs official documents and spec sheets by the manufacturer..... Facts.


But again don't mind me or common sense..... Listen to the "experts" :yes:
 
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