Cabinet for EVH 5150 III Stealth 100W

[MadAsAHatter]

Right well if you want to use a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt speaker and wonder why the speaker blows its not hard to understand why..... Again nvm that Celestion has zero obligation to cover said speaker under warranty either.


All because you listened to a dude in an email telling another dude on the Internet vs official documents and spec sheets by the manufacturer..... Facts.


But again don't mind me or common sense..... Listen to the "experts"

This doesn't look like thousands of easily obtainable legally binding documents to me.

 

[The~Kid]

This is Celestions Warranty....... The manufacturer of the speakers.

https://celestion.com/warranty/

This warranty covers damage specifically arising from defects in materials and manufacturing. Your speaker is not covered if damage has: been caused by product modification, accident, neglect, misuse, abuse; been incurred during transportation; resulted from repairs, alterations, or misrepresentation by the reseller; been caused during initial shipping, for example a bent chassis*.



Anyone is free to follow Smash, Hatters and the "experts" advice if you believe it to be wise. Nvm me....... I'm no "expert" and I'ma just follow common sense and official documents and spec sheets.


Run a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt Speaker Celestion makes...... Because some dude on the Internet said a dude told him another dude an email it's 25 watts not 20 watts like their manual, spec sheet and official documents say.... They would have zero obligation to honor the warranty in any event for whatever reason you decide to do so given official documents of the wattage....


Worse if any damage happened your amp doing this for whatever reason....... One is free to take informal statements over facts at their own risk.......



But nvm that and nvm me....... Listen to the Hatter or Smash and "experts" vs facts, reason, simple logic and common sense

 

[MadAsAHatter]

This is Celestions Warranty....... The manufacturer of the speakers.

https://celestion.com/warranty/

This warranty covers damage specifically arising from defects in materials and manufacturing. Your speaker is not covered if damage has: been caused by product modification, accident, neglect, misuse, abuse; been incurred during transportation; resulted from repairs, alterations, or misrepresentation by the reseller; been caused during initial shipping, for example a bent chassis*.



Anyone is free to follow Smash, Hatters and the "experts" advice if you believe it to be wise. Nvm me....... I'm no "expert" and I'ma just follow common sense and official documents and spec sheets.


Run a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt Speaker Celestion makes...... Because some dude on the Internet said a dude told him another dude an email it's 25 watts not 20 watts like their manual, spec sheet and official documents say.... They would have zero obligation to honor the warranty in any event for whatever reason you decide to do so given official documents of the wattage....


Worse if any damage happened to your amp your amp doing this for whatever reason....... One is free to take informal statements over facts at their own risk.



But nvm that and nvm me....... Listen to Hatter or Smash and the "experts" vs facts, reason, simple logic and common sense


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That's 1 document of the thousands.
Where does the warranty officially list the wattage of the EVH speaker? I don't see it.

 

[The~Kid]

That's 1 document of the thousands.
Where does the warranty officially list the wattage of the EVH speaker? I don't see it.

The speaker does on the label, and so does the manual and spec sheet on Celestions website and EVH/Fenders website and spec sheet/official documents. Facts

 

[MadAsAHatter]

The speaker does on the label, and so does the manual and spec sheet on Celestions website and EVH/Fenders website and spec sheet/official documents. Facts

Fender's website says the cab is 100 watts. It's simple maths. 100/4=25. But hey, if you don't want to trust the official legally binding document then be my guest.

 

[The~Kid]

Fender's website says the cab is 100 watts. It's simple maths. 100/4=25. But hey, if you don't want to trust the official legally binding document then be my guest.

A cab rated at 100 watts doesn't mean the speakers are 25 watts it means that is what the cab is ratted at to handle that Fender/EVH covers under their warranty.


This doesn't mean the speakers are 25 watts and even EVH own spec sheets and other information on their own site and official documents there show it to be 20 watts.


Anyone is free to follow your advice based on informal statements and hyperbole that again are proof and evidence of nothing and blow a speaker running a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt EVH/Heritage speaker and void warranty .... Or they can follow common sense and properly power their amps and use proper power handling


IMO and IME it's just best practice to follow the spec sheets/official documents for safety vs informal statements and Internet/Forum myth and rumors but hey...... Don't listen to me, listen to Hatter, Smash and the "experts" here.

 

[Floyd Eye]

I'm not the one here favoring informal statements and hyperbole by you or others as fact. What's alarming to me is that you simply nod your head and say yes to it, eat the grey goop and accept it despite all reasonable logic saying otherwise...... Talk about being a bot/zombie..... Just nodding yes mindlessly to anything. Okay fine and kinda scary


Based on your logic one could say "okay dude told me in an email it's 25 watts but provided no actual evidence or documents to prove it so let me run a 25 watt amp through it"..... Based on an informal statement and again no real evidence or proof that these are actually 25 watts and everything says they are infact 20 watts and then you blow a speaker......


Why would Celestion honor the warranty when you used a lower rated speaker and higher wattage amp on purpose?!?!? Because it was read on a forum from you or others and some dude said another dude told him in an email and informal statement vs the official documents provided by Celestion......


Okay fine but at least be aware that is essentially your argument here..... And it's not a very good one if an argument at all and more magical thinking than anything


It just doesn't seem wise by any reasonable standards in America or the Civilized World and it doesn't seem wise when it comes to ones gear/rig and basic safety and just basic standards in general..... But you can go on and listen to the "experts".....


Me I'ma just follow common sense and go by official ratings in official documents but hey that's me......


Works for me *_*

You and common sense are an oxymoron.

 

[Floyd Eye]

This is Celestions Warranty....... The manufacturer of the speakers.

https://celestion.com/warranty/

This warranty covers damage specifically arising from defects in materials and manufacturing. Your speaker is not covered if damage has: been caused by product modification, accident, neglect, misuse, abuse; been incurred during transportation; resulted from repairs, alterations, or misrepresentation by the reseller; been caused during initial shipping, for example a bent chassis*.



Anyone is free to follow Smash, Hatters and the "experts" advice if you believe it to be wise. Nvm me....... I'm no "expert" and I'ma just follow common sense and official documents and spec sheets.


Run a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt Speaker Celestion makes...... Because some dude on the Internet said a dude told him another dude an email it's 25 watts not 20 watts like their manual, spec sheet and official documents say.... They would have zero obligation to honor the warranty in any event for whatever reason you decide to do so given official documents of the wattage....


Worse if any damage happened your amp doing this for whatever reason....... One is free to take informal statements over facts at their own risk.......



But nvm that and nvm me....... Listen to the Hatter or Smash and "experts" vs facts, reason, simple logic and common sense


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Those multiple “ dudes on the internet” are reps from Fender and Celestion.

That warranty is for a 100 watt cab. Not many consumers take their cab apart and look at the speakers to figure out the wattage. They usually just look at the badge on the cab. Which says 100 watts.

I never understood people like you and fat Dan. Your posts, not just in this thread but everywhere are so fucking stupid they are barely even readable and when every single person here tells you it’s stupid you double down. Congratulations, you are hands down the dumbest mother fucker on RT.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

A cab rated at 100 watts doesn't mean the speakers are 25 watts it means that is what the cab is ratted at to handle that Fender/EVH covers under their warranty.


This doesn't mean the speakers are 25 watts and even EVH own spec sheets and other information on their own site and official documents there show it to be 20 watts.


Anyone is free to follow your advice based on informal statements and hyperbole that again are proof and evidence of nothing and blow a speaker running a 25 watt amp into a 20 watt EVH/Heritage speaker and void warranty .... Or they can follow common sense and properly power their amps and use proper power handling


IMO and IME it's just best practice to follow the spec sheets/official documents for safety vs informal statements and Internet/Forum myth and rumors but hey...... Don't listen to me, listen to Hatter, Smash and the "experts" here.

Why do you deny science and basic maths? 100/4=25 not 20. I even double checked it on my scientific calculator.
But hey, if you want ignore the official legally binding document then be my guest.

 

[The~Kid]

Nvm mind me, common sense, warranty or official documents.....

But hey don't take my word for it......



Take the word of these guys and the "experts" and other backwards ass logic and other clown shit as such and see how that works out vs common sense and basics, fundamentals and safety for ones gear.

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Nvm mind me, common sense, warranty or official documents.....



But hey don't take my word for it......



Take the word of these guys and the "experts" and other backwards ass logic and other clown shit as such and see how that works out vs common sense and basics, fundamentals and safety for ones gear.

Why do you want to keep ignoring science/logic/reason/basic maths? jeez... it's not that hard to understand but you must be one of those Neil Deass Tyson/wokemerican science deniers who hate America. it says it right there on Fender's official legally binding documents white pages and covered by hundreds of warranties what's so hard to understand?

 

[The~Kid]

What a Bozo.....

 

[MadAsAHatter]

What a Bozo.....


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I'm not the one here who's a Neil Deass Tyson science/logic/reason/maths denier who can't do basic maths and understand official legally binding documents which are covered by a warranty. Fender's spec sheet/white pages/hundreds of legally binding documents say 100 watts.




Basic maths is 100/4=25.


jeez.... why is this so hard to understand it was even calculated on a official scientific/maths calculator

 

[Floyd Eye]

Gotta love the autistic boy, still living in his mom's basement, rocking a Princeton and a microcube, trying to school guys with decades of experience with gear on how to protect their gear.

 

[The~Kid]

I'm not the one here who's a Neil Deass Tyson science/logic/reason/maths denier who can't do basic maths and understand official legally binding documents which are covered by a warranty. Fender's spec sheet/white pages/hundreds of legally binding documents say 100 watts.




Basic maths is 100/4=25.


jeez.... why is this so hard to understand it was even calculated on a official scientific/maths calculator

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Its not so hard to understand that a speaker isn't rated at what a cabinet is ratted at legally...... They are two different things....

So yes 100 divided by 4 = 25 and not 20 and 20 watts is whats listed as the speakers official rating in back and white on Fender/EVH and Celestions website.


As said one can follow your backwards ass logic based on informal statements, use a 20 watt EVH speaker with a 25 watt amp, blow a speaker and void warranty vs basic fundamentals, common sense and safety.

 

[The~Kid]

And honestly not being here trying to be an asshole to Hatter or anyone but IMO in regards to safety of the gear/rig it's important to keep these things under consideration and be aware....

Especially as said if one is using one of these speakers into an amp expecting it to handle 25 watts when all it could handle is 20 watts given official EVH/Celestion documents.




Its important, shouldn't be taken for granted and IMO and IME it matters for the well being of ones gear, rig and safety in general

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Its not so hard to understand that a speaker isn't rated at what a cabinet is ratted at legally...... They are two different things....

So yes 100 divided by 4 = 25 and not 20 and 20 watts is whats listed as the speakers official rating in back and white on Fender/EVH and Celestions website.


As said one can follow your backwards ass logic based on informal statements, use a 20 watt EVH speaker with a 25 watt amp, blow a speaker and void warranty vs basic fundamentals, common sense and safety.

How does four 20 watt speakers add up to 100 it doesn't. It's basic maths 20x4=80 and the cab is 100 watts. Fender says it on the official legally binding documents that are covered by hundreds of warranties it can't get simpler than that. Even Canada laws which don't allow you to lie on the websites spec sheet because it can hurt you say it is 100 watts. 100/4=25 it's simple maths/science/logic/reason.

 

[The~Kid]

How does four 20 watt speakers add up to 100 it doesn't. It's basic maths 20x4=80 and the cab is 100 watts. Fender says it on the official legally binding documents that are covered by hundreds of warranties it can't get simpler than that. Even Canada laws which don't allow you to lie on the websites spec sheet because it can hurt you say it is 100 watts. 100/4=25 it's simple maths/science/logic/reason.

Exactly thank you......


Four 20 watt speakers, the official wattage of EVH speakers, don't add up to 100 watts.....



But Fender/EVH rate it as such under their specs as a cab and coverage under warranty. Its just a paradox to put it simply in logic but it doesn't change the fact that these are officially rated as 20 watt speakers by Celestion the manufacturer and even EVH/Fender and their official documents.

 

[The~Kid]

Also one figures well Fender/EVH does cover it under warranty but that isn't forever and usually what 3 to 5 years right.....



So nvm the logic of four 20 watt speakers making a 100 watt ratted cab however one figures that works and well it's something to keep in mind and be aware of as a player in consideration for the rig/gear and safety IMO and IME coming from a good place

 

[MadAsAHatter]

Exactly thank you......


Four 20 watt speakers, the official wattage of EVH speakers, don't add up to 100 watts.....



But Fender/EVH rate it as such under their specs as a cab and coverage under warranty. Its just a paradox to put it simply in logic but it doesn't change the fact that these are officially rated as 20 watt speakers by Celestion the manufacturer and even EVH/Fender and their official documents.

You keep denying science/logic/reason/maths. Fender's official legally binding documents says it is 100 watts and 100/4=25. I guess if you are using Neil DeAss Tyson wokemerican maths then 100/4=80 but that does against science/logic/reason/maths and the warranty covers 100 watts of four 25 watt speakers.

jeez...... what a bozo who can't understand basic science and maths.