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Holy-diver
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I just wanted to point out that the-kid, along with being retarded, is also extra gay for having a plethora of magic mike pics saved on his device.
Carry on.
Carry on.
I'm sorry but it's all fun and games until someone blows up their shit and fucks up their rig/gear......I'm sorry; not sorry, you can't come to terms how wrong and completely retarded you are.
Like @S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑ said, I can't understand what it's like to be as pathetic and dumb as you, but watching you here gives me a decent idea.
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This should have been a straight forward thread with some recommendations on a cab to pair with an EVH Stealth. But your retarded ass drug this shit out for over 1000 post with your doubling down on stupid bullshit. You've been proven wrong and for whatever fucking reason can't let it go. Just admit you were wrong and give it a rest already pizza-boy.I'm sorry but it's all fun and games until someone blows up their shit and fucks up their rig/gear......
As said following your logic is just asking for trouble if you're looking to use these for a build and assume they are 25 watts based on misinformation vs official documents/spec sheets.
It really comes down to that and that ain't no joke IMO and IME. Its common sense and safety.
Some people want to fuck around with wattage or ohms or whatever or anything use tubes they shouldn't or whatever else go right ahead. Maybe for dudes like Smash and Hatter here I give a pass because these dudes actually know what they are doing but out of an abundance of caution to your average guys out there or let's face it below average guys.......
Be aware of the risk involved here and be aware that it may void warranty and in general put ones gear/rig in harm![]()
Maybe you should take your own advice and let it go....... BozoThis should have been a straight forward thread with some recommendations on a cab to pair with an EVH Stealth. But your retarded ass drug this shit out for over 1000 post with your doubling down on stupid bullshit. You've been proven wrong and for whatever fucking reason can't let it go. Just admit you were wrong and give it a rest already pizza-boy.
Looks like he might have a Thorn in his side.
OK, this thread has gone nuclear. I got my information on these speakers from two sources.More BS and again pure misinformation based on informal statements and nothing on EVHs website says these are 25 watt speakers.....
This is a lie by you pure and simple and the official ratings are 20 watts.
Anyone can go to Fenders/EVH website and see on their site these are listed as a 20 watt speaker and so does Celestions site and this is a bold faced lie.

So you are one of the most knowledgable people on the planet about Celestion speakers?OK, this thread has gone nuclear. I got my information on these speakers from two sources.
1) Duncan Boniface, former lead speaker engineer at Celestion for 11 years. When they moved production to China, he bailed and went to work for Carlsbro Amps. He left after the Heritage models were introduced in 2005. He was Dr.Decibel @ Celestion, by the way. Some of you may have emailed him back then.
2) Rick Skillman, former Celestion USA rep for 19.5 years. We had this discussion about him going to EVH's studio in 2007 or so. While the label says 20w, it's actually a 25w speaker. Didn't make sense to produce two different voice coils in the same frame. I'm thinking Rick would know, since he also worked with Duncan in the UK.
3) The true 20w G12M's with the paper voice coil are in my 1967 Queen/Dokken stack. Celestion tried to get close to that tone. They failed miserably IMO, having had some & I tried them side by side in my shop with my cab switcher for instant comparison.
Why don't you all stop squabbling about this already?
Jim
Holy fucking shit it's Jim *_*OK, this thread has gone nuclear. I got my information on these speakers from two sources.
1) Duncan Boniface, former lead speaker engineer at Celestion for 11 years. When they moved production to China, he bailed and went to work for Carlsbro Amps. He left after the Heritage models were introduced in 2005. He was Dr.Decibel @ Celestion, by the way. Some of you may have emailed him back then.
2) Rick Skillman, former Celestion USA rep for 19.5 years. We had this discussion about him going to EVH's studio in 2007 or so. While the label says 20w, it's actually a 25w speaker. Didn't make sense to produce two different voice coils in the same frame. I'm thinking Rick would know, since he also worked with Duncan in the UK.
3) The true 20w G12M's with the paper voice coil are in my 1967 Queen/Dokken stack. Celestion tried to get close to that tone. They failed miserably IMO, having had some & I tried them side by side in my shop with my cab switcher for instant comparison.
Why don't you all stop squabbling about this already?
Jim
OK, this thread has gone nuclear. I got my information on these speakers from two sources.
1) Duncan Boniface, former lead speaker engineer at Celestion for 11 years. When they moved production to China, he bailed and went to work for Carlsbro Amps. He left after the Heritage models were introduced in 2005. He was Dr.Decibel @ Celestion, by the way. Some of you may have emailed him back then.
2) Rick Skillman, former Celestion USA rep for 19.5 years. We had this discussion about him going to EVH's studio in 2007 or so. While the label says 20w, it's actually a 25w speaker. Didn't make sense to produce two different voice coils in the same frame. I'm thinking Rick would know, since he also worked with Duncan in the UK.
3) The true 20w G12M's with the paper voice coil are in my 1967 Queen/Dokken stack. Celestion tried to get close to that tone. They failed miserably IMO, having had some & I tried them side by side in my shop with my cab switcher for instant comparison.
Why don't you all stop squabbling about this already?
Jim
While the label says 20w, it's actually a 25w speaker.
@Scumback Speakers Thank you for weighing in Jim. Hopefully your post can put all of this to bed.
@The~Kid pay attention to this part...
I'm a contractor. I follow the bylaws of the city I'm working so I don't have problems with different building codes. Different countries have different laws regarding consumer products. It shouldn't be hard for a person to draw parallels with that.But listen Jim
Apparently it's illegal for celestion to underrate their speakers by 5 watts for historical/marketing purposes (according to cdawg)
Because something something health and safety canadian bullshit something no one cares about
So finally you take the word of an industry expert that the EVH speakers are 25 watts even though it has been posted multiple times over previously. I hope you're smiling as you eat the 54 page turd you started. 4/100=25He is an expert and a legend in the field without a doubt and much respect to him for coming here and taking time out of his day to share this information with me and everyone else. I will trust Jims word vs anything else and I have no doubt to believe anything he says.
He knows what he's doing, he knows what he's talking about and not many if anyone is more knowledgeable than him on the matter or in the industry. Respect to a legend and hats off.
My apologies for the troubles........Thank you Jim @Scumback Speakers and what a guy *_*
Yeah yeah whatever, I was wrong and I admit it and I have no shame in that.I don't want to speak for Jim, but I think to paraphrase his post, he is asking you to leave rig-talk, @The~Kid
Now this breaks my heart. But I think we have to honor his wishes. Good bye