Dual recto Ri vs OG

[Exo-metal]

The volume swell going from anything not Modern to Modern is normal & unavoidable. Modern has no negative feedback which is louder, softer, and what gives it the Recto sound.

I would think a handful of parts could make the fix.

 

[Markedman]

This one goes to 11


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[skoora]

I finally got to try a dual reissue, the newer non chrome chassis one and it sounded weird to me. It was through a Friedman 2x12. I mainly did Orange because that’s my jam on the Tremoverb. It had a very big bottom and was extremely hollow in the mids. So much more than I remember them to be. My Tverb Orange has a lot more balance. The reissue sounded like someone went BBE crazy in the loop. Only doing the treble on zero thing brought back any useable midrange. It sounded very big and the low mid growl was in full effect but man, it sounded like it would be impossible to get it to really cut in a mix.

 

[FourT6and2]

I finally got to try a dual reissue, the newer non chrome chassis one and it sounded weird to me. It was through a Friedman 2x12. I mainly did Orange because that’s my jam on the Tremoverb. It had a very big bottom and was extremely hollow in the mids. So much more than I remember them to be. My Tverb Orange has a lot more balance. The reissue sounded like someone went BBE crazy in the loop. Only doing the treble on zero thing brought back any useable midrange. It sounded very big and the low mid growl was in full effect but man, it sounded like it would be impossible to get it to really cut in a mix.

Everybody's ears are different but Exo and I have literally compared like 5 rectos back to back, including two of the reissues. And except for the Triples, they all sounded close enough to where you wouldn't know which one you were playing if your eyes were closed. The reissue uses all of the same exact parts, including transformers, as the '90s rectos. There is literally zero difference except series loop and no LDRs (a good thing), and it has brand new components instead of 30-year-old parts that have had time to drift.

But none were Tremoverbs. I've not played one of those, so if that's your reference point, then who knows. And we didn't really focus on the orange channel. We stayed in red/modern on all the amps.

Will compare the reissue to a Rev F soon as well.

Here's a great video of a bunch of different versions too. Are there subtle differences? Yeah. But to your point, in a mix you aren't going to hear them:

 

[skoora]

Everybody's ears are different but Exo and I have literally compared like 5 rectos back to back, including two of the reissues. And except for the Triples, they all sounded close enough to where you wouldn't know which one you were playing if your eyes were closed. The reissue uses all of the same exact parts, including transformers, as the '90s rectos. There is literally zero difference except series loop and no LDRs (a good thing), and it has brand new components instead of 30-year-old parts that have had time to drift.

But none were Tremoverbs. I've not played one of those, so if that's your reference point, then who knows. And we didn't really focus on the orange channel. We stayed in red/modern on all the amps.

Will compare the reissue to a Rev F soon as well.

Here's a great video of a bunch of different versions too. Are there subtle differences? Yeah. But to your point, in a mix you aren't going to hear them:

I don’t disagree with what you're saying and honestly Ithought it sounded fine in that video. It was more a case of how it sounded when I tried it. Now it was through a cab I didn’t know, using a 68 reissue LPC. I always found Recto’s to respond better to bolt on neck guitars but it wasn’t that it was, in general, a big sound that made you go, cool, that’s got some oomph. It was cartoonishly bass heavy, with little to no mid character. Really took me by surprise and I used to sell them in the 90’s so I’m familiar with them.
It was the first time in quite a while where I played an amp where I thought this is completely unuseable, except with an EQ in the loop and probably out front as well to tame bass.
I do hope I get to try one again just to double check some settings and try different cab/guitars etc.

 

[FourT6and2]

I don’t disagree with what you're saying and honestly Ithought it sounded fine in that video. It was more a case of how it sounded when I tried it. Now it was through a cab I didn’t know, using a 68 reissue LPC. I always found Recto’s to respond better to bolt on neck guitars but it wasn’t that it was, in general a big sound that made you go, cool, that’s got some oomph. It was cartoonishly bass heavy, with little to no mid character. Really took me by surprise and I used to sell them in the 90’s so I’m familiar with them.
It was the first time in quite a while where I played an amp where I thought this is completely unuseable, except with an EQ in the loop and probably out front as well to tame bass.
I do hope I get to try one again just to double check some settings and try different cab/guitars etc.

That doesn't sound at all like the ones I've played. And I do own one now too. Tried them all through two new Mesa trad 4x12s, an Orange 4x12, an Atlas 4x12, two Bogner 4x12s, and a Marshall 4x12. I usually run the bass around 11:00.

 

[Exo-metal]

Exhibit rev F

MK3 Iron/PT561136 and
OT562100

 

[Omnipotent1]

I give you OG exhibit, rev F and a mayhem to follow.

You better just send that this way before it looses value Exo.. Consider it a favor..

Congratulations btw lol

 

[Exo-metal]

So far the amp has been recapped and may explain this amp has some good grunt to it. Boosted with the master up there's a clarity to the tones. Amp is brutal like the others I have here.

 

[Holy-diver]

I don’t disagree with what you're saying and honestly Ithought it sounded fine in that video. It was more a case of how it sounded when I tried it. Now it was through a cab I didn’t know, using a 68 reissue LPC. I always found Recto’s to respond better to bolt on neck guitars but it wasn’t that it was, in general, a big sound that made you go, cool, that’s got some oomph. It was cartoonishly bass heavy, with little to no mid character. Really took me by surprise and I used to sell them in the 90’s so I’m familiar with them.
It was the first time in quite a while where I played an amp where I thought this is completely unuseable, except with an EQ in the loop and probably out front as well to tame bass.
I do hope I get to try one again just to double check some settings and try different cab/guitars etc.

That’s weird, we also have a few rectos around and the triple RI if anything has less bass and slightly more mids as compared with a triple rev g, dual rev g and 3 channel dual solo. I’ve owned like 15+ other rectos previously including several tremoverbs and the 90s ri is definitely a little more focused than basically any of them minus modded ones. Maybe there was a bad tube

 

[skoora]

That doesn't sound at all like the ones I've played. And I do own one now too. Tried them all through two new Mesa trad 4x12s, an Orange 4x12, an Atlas 4x12, two Bogner 4x12s, and a Marshall 4x12. I usually run the bass around 11:00.

FWIW, I got to play it again today, where I used a different cab and it sounded totally normal. Must have been the Friedman cab I played it through originally.

 

[Exo-metal]

FWIW, I got to play it again today, where I used a different cab and it sounded totally normal. Must have been the Friedman cab I played it through originally.

What exactly was the cab/speakers and was it the orange channel again or did you try the red boost/no boost?

 

[skoora]

What exactly was the cab/speakers and was it the orange channel again or did you try the red boost/no boost?

Just the Orange channel, set to variable high gain, no boost. it”s in a GC, so just doing the store demo thing. No idea what speakers were in the cabs. Friedman was a 2x12 and the cab it sounded normal through was a cheap Marshall vert 2x12. I had first tried a 800 SC20 through the Marshall and it sounded fine so ran the Recto through it (right next to it) to check it again.

 

[skoora]

I will say it’s a shame those little SC20’s are too lean for me in the low end because they have such a perfect mid and top end response with a Gibson for rock. Volume roll off is great and they have an almost perfect amount of gain for straight in rock n roll. Don’t know if an EQ in the loop is the fix for the lows because there’s adding bass but sometimes you can’t add grunt like you get with a 50-100 watt amp.

 

[Exo-metal]

What kind of tones are you using? This amp is capable of some killer tones.