NAD: Marshall SV20H has arrived!!

[sjk]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Let me guess, thin and small sounding? small output transformer?

I’m speaking of the PS

Ok I get it now, wrongly assumed you meant the 20 watt studio vintage and studio classic amps
I should probably lay off the bong so early in the evening

 

[napalmdeath]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Let me guess, thin and small sounding? small output transformer?

I’m speaking of the PS

I can say this.. I'm disappointed too. It doesn't get along with the SV20 at all. I think it's more the amp, though. It likes to be wide open, and the PS-2 just chokes it out.

This SV20 is stupid loud. I'm really shocked how they are marketing it. Its not a home, studio, low volume amp whatsoever. You have to hit 7-8 to get any saturation, and by that time, it's rattling the whole house. It sounds absolutely killer, but make no mistake, it's a small footprint gigging amp. Will it keep up with a drummer? Yes. And another guitar player with a 50 watt, and bass player with 300.

I almost feel duped. You guys can collect your winnings on the poll, it's totally not practical for me. By the time I hit the sweet spot on the amp, I'm getting dirty looks...

 

[LPMojoGL]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Ron, FB store have one in stock? I’m probably picking one up, trading the Grease Monkey if it doesn't sell. I agree, the SV20h is a home run. Great tone, feel and volume. Just hope the cheaper build holds up.

Lp Freak, agree bout the PS 1&2. I realize many folks love them, but they messed with the feel and sound with my amps way more than what’s reported by the majority of users. Killed the air and highs on my Marshally amps, flat out changed the whole sound of the modern mode on a Mesa Dual Rec (weird), and was not great taming a Fargen Townhouse 5w volume for home use. It did, however, sound good at equal or boosted volumes on the Fargen. A ppimv was preferable on my plexi style amps, and the 2204 JMP sounded better with it’s own mv.
The Suhr RL, on the other hand, has been pretty handy.

 

[Marshall Freak]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Let me guess, thin and small sounding? small output transformer?

I’m speaking of the PS

I can say this.. I'm disappointed too. It doesn't get along with the SV20 at all. I think it's more the amp, though. It likes to be wide open, and the PS-2 just chokes it out.

This SV20 is stupid loud. I'm really shocked how they are marketing it. Its not a home, studio, low volume amp whatsoever. You have to hit 7-8 to get any saturation, and by that time, it's rattling the whole house. It sounds absolutely killer, but make no mistake, it's a small footprint gigging amp. Will it keep up with a drummer? Yes. And another guitar player with a 50 watt, and bass player with 300.

I almost feel duped. You guys can collect your winnings on the poll, it's totally not practical for me. By the time I hit the sweet spot on the amp, I'm getting dirty looks...

Sorry to hear that, do you think maybe the 800 master volume might suit you better?

 

[LP Freak]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Ron, FB store have one in stock? I’m probably picking one up, trading the Grease Monkey if it doesn't sell. I agree, the SV20h is a home run. Great tone, feel and volume. Just hope the cheaper build holds up.

Lp Freak, agree bout the PS 1&2. I realize many folks love them, but they messed with the feel and sound with my amps way more than what’s reported by the majority of users. Killed the air and highs on my Marshally amps, flat out changed the whole sound of the modern mode on a Mesa Dual Rec (weird), and was not great taming a Fargen Townhouse 5w volume for home use. It did, however, sound good at equal or boosted volumes on the Fargen. A ppimv was preferable on my plexi style amps, and the 2204 JMP sounded better with it’s own mv.
The Suhr RL, on the other hand, has been pretty handy.

Yep, everyone used to argue that it doesn’t change the tone but that’s BS. And yes it also changes the feel. You’re exactly right, it chokes the amp. And it has that same sound on every amp.

 

[LPMojoGL]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Let me guess, thin and small sounding? small output transformer?

I’m speaking of the PS

I can say this.. I'm disappointed too. It doesn't get along with the SV20 at all. I think it's more the amp, though. It likes to be wide open, and the PS-2 just chokes it out.

This SV20 is stupid loud. I'm really shocked how they are marketing it. Its not a home, studio, low volume amp whatsoever. You have to hit 7-8 to get any saturation, and by that time, it's rattling the whole house. It sounds absolutely killer, but make no mistake, it's a small footprint gigging amp. Will it keep up with a drummer? Yes. And another guitar player with a 50 watt, and bass player with 300.

I almost feel duped. You guys can collect your winnings on the poll, it's totally not practical for me. By the time I hit the sweet spot on the amp, I'm getting dirty looks...

When I played The SV20h through the matching 2x12 in low mode, it was getting some hair with the volume knobs around 9 oclock, and wasn't too loud. That's with a JB in a Charvel. Felt and sounded great to me. All it did from there was get more saturated and not much louder.

 

[napalmdeath]

Played the 20w Marshall Plexi -- really great. So tempting.

Clearly an amp Marshall should have been making for the last 20 years.

Did you get to crank it? That's when the magic happens! And, I have a PS-2 on my doorstep when I get home!

I was disappointed in both versions. I’ll let you be the judge though.

Let me guess, thin and small sounding? small output transformer?

I’m speaking of the PS

I can say this.. I'm disappointed too. It doesn't get along with the SV20 at all. I think it's more the amp, though. It likes to be wide open, and the PS-2 just chokes it out.

This SV20 is stupid loud. I'm really shocked how they are marketing it. Its not a home, studio, low volume amp whatsoever. You have to hit 7-8 to get any saturation, and by that time, it's rattling the whole house. It sounds absolutely killer, but make no mistake, it's a small footprint gigging amp. Will it keep up with a drummer? Yes. And another guitar player with a 50 watt, and bass player with 300.

I almost feel duped. You guys can collect your winnings on the poll, it's totally not practical for me. By the time I hit the sweet spot on the amp, I'm getting dirty looks...

When I played The SV20h through the matching 2x12 in low mode, it was getting some hair with the volume knobs around 9 oclock, and wasn't too loud. That's with a JB in a Charvel. Felt and sounded great to me. All it did from there was get more saturated and not much louder.

I'm using mine through a Greenback loaded 4x12. Big difference.

 

[maddnotez]

Sounds killer in that video man, congrats.

I am getting on the mini train too but will get the JJ.

 

[godgrinder]

Would you mind checking the plate voltage on this one? Wondering if they did the same like the mini jubilee.

 

[kdmay]

Would you mind checking the plate voltage on this one? Wondering if they did the same like the mini jubilee.

In another thread it was said to be 250vdc cathode biased. I’ll pass, there has to be some inherent compression going on with this which would loose the magic of a plexi

 

[napalmdeath]

Would you mind checking the plate voltage on this one? Wondering if they did the same like the mini jubilee.

In another thread it was said to be 250vdc cathode biased. I’ll pass, there has to be some inherent compression going on with this which would loose the magic of a plexi

Yep, 250, dropped to 143 in 5 watt.

 

[LPMojoGL]

Would you mind checking the plate voltage on this one? Wondering if they did the same like the mini jubilee.

In another thread it was said to be 250vdc cathode biased. I’ll pass, there has to be some inherent compression going on with this which would loose the magic of a plexi

Yep, 250, dropped to 143 in 5 watt.

Still playing it, or did it go back?

 

[skoora]

I didn’t care for the SV I played. A little too grainy or indistinct when loud. Still pretty good though, I would still rather get a used 1987 reissue and an attenuator. The SC sounded very good. Wouldn’t mind putting an EQ in the loop to see if some lacking beef can be “adjusted”. But it nailed the 800 tone more so than the SV got the plexi/metal panel thing right. Ultimately would rather pay 12-13 for a used OG 2203/4 than a new SC.
If the SC was more towards 899 or at least sub 1000 it would be a fun purchase.

 

[misterspockyall]

I didn’t care for the SV I played. A little too grainy or indistinct when loud. Still pretty good though, I would still rather get a used 1987 reissue and an attenuator. The SC sounded very good. Wouldn’t mind putting an EQ in the loop to see if some lacking beef can be “adjusted”. But it nailed the 800 tone more so than the SV got the plexi/metal panel thing right. Ultimately would rather pay 12-13 for a used OG 2203/4 than a new SC.
If the SC was more towards 899 or at least sub 1000 it would be a fun purchase.

If someone could point me in the direction of clean $1200 2203/2204 jmp’s, I’d be very appreciative. No shade, just saying whenever I look the asking price is closer to 1800 and up

 

[skoora]

I didn’t care for the SV I played. A little too grainy or indistinct when loud. Still pretty good though, I would still rather get a used 1987 reissue and an attenuator. The SC sounded very good. Wouldn’t mind putting an EQ in the loop to see if some lacking beef can be “adjusted”. But it nailed the 800 tone more so than the SV got the plexi/metal panel thing right. Ultimately would rather pay 12-13 for a used OG 2203/4 than a new SC.
If the SC was more towards 899 or at least sub 1000 it would be a fun purchase.

If someone could point me in the direction of clean $1200 2203/2204 jmp’s, I’d be very appreciative. No shade, just saying whenever I look the asking price is closer to 1800 and up

I’ve seen them when they pop up on the GC used site and they are usually 1099-1399 depending on store. 1800 is just cracksmokers on Reverb and Ebay who will never get that. They may have listed it for 18 but did it sell and what for?

 

[Racerxrated]

I didn’t care for the SV I played. A little too grainy or indistinct when loud. Still pretty good though, I would still rather get a used 1987 reissue and an attenuator. The SC sounded very good. Wouldn’t mind putting an EQ in the loop to see if some lacking beef can be “adjusted”. But it nailed the 800 tone more so than the SV got the plexi/metal panel thing right. Ultimately would rather pay 12-13 for a used OG 2203/4 than a new SC.
If the SC was more towards 899 or at least sub 1000 it would be a fun purchase.

If someone could point me in the direction of clean $1200 2203/2204 jmp’s, I’d be very appreciative. No shade, just saying whenever I look the asking price is closer to 1800 and up

I’ve seen them when they pop up on the GC used site and they are usually 1099-1399 depending on store. 1800 is just cracksmokers on Reverb and Ebay who will never get that. They may have listed it for 18 but did it sell and what for?

Yup. GC has raised their used prices, but some sneak through the cracks. Yesterday there was a 79 2203 at an Iowa GC for 1099 but it was gone pretty fast. 2 JCM 800 Combos though for 999....one a 50 another a 100. Single channel.

 

[Rick Lee]

I wouldn't buy any old Marshall from GC's website unless it were so cheap as to offset the worst mods or hackjob anyone could have every done. Sure, you can always return it. But you're not getting an unmolested '79 2203 for $1099 anywhere but an estate sale where the widow doesn't know what she has and just wants it gone (ask me how I know). Most of the top dollar vintage Marshalls on eBay and Reverb have detailed descriptions and gut shots, so you know what you're getting. I saw a guy buy a Marshall Major for $1300 at an estate sale two years ago. I was at my tech's shop when he walked in the door to have the tech give it a look over. There was nothing original at all left on that chassis. It looked like a Marshall from the outside only. Inside it was a whole different amp. With what it cost to build it back up into a Major, he'd have been money ahead by paying market price for a real one.

 

[Racerxrated]

I wouldn't buy any old Marshall from GC's website unless it were so cheap as to offset the worst mods or hackjob anyone could have every done. Sure, you can always return it. But you're not getting an unmolested '79 2203 for $1099 anywhere but an estate sale where the widow doesn't know what she has and just wants it gone (ask me how I know). Most of the top dollar vintage Marshalls on eBay and Reverb have detailed descriptions and gut shots, so you know what you're getting. I saw a guy buy a Marshall Major for $1300 at an estate sale two years ago. I was at my tech's shop when he walked in the door to have the tech give it a look over. There was nothing original at all left on that chassis. It looked like a Marshall from the outside only. Inside it was a whole different amp. With what it cost to build it back up into a Major, he'd have been money ahead by paying market price for a real one.

Man, you take a chance on ANY vintage Marshall, on ebay or Reverb....the 79 2203 had an FX loop that was disconnected. But, as long as it has the original Drakes/Dagnalls ANY MV Marshall can be restored IF its been Fd with. NMV, now those get tricky. I've had TONS of Marshalls from GC and some were perfect and original...I have an 87 2210 that competes with any 2203 I've had, and I've had plenty. Yes there are horror stories with GC just like Reverb, Ebay, etc...just the nature of the beast.
My only disclaimer with a vintage Marshall is, it HAS to have the original transformers. Everything else can easily be brought back to stock. If you have to have vintage Mustards, yes they are out there too.

 

[Rick Lee]

Well, I have a '78 1959 NMV that had the trannies replaced with slightly later Dagnalls from a JCM800. That amp is amazing. I'm selling it, but it may not be the perfect amp for a very picky purist.

 

[Racerxrated]

Well, I have a '78 1959 NMV that had the trannies replaced with slightly later Dagnalls from a JCM800. That amp is amazing. I'm selling it, but it may not be the perfect amp for a very picky purist.

I would consider that original enough for me..since the trannies are from another Marshall. You'll still have that Marshall tone, no matter what year they are from it's still a pair of Marshall trannies.