Nice Price On New Jubilee's Right Now

[skoora]

If I needed one I'd be all over a new one right now. $1249, and you still might be able to use coupons.

 

[Chester Nimitz]

Im waiting for the kid on CL that will be selling his for $600 bucks about a year from now when his mom can't take it anymore ...

 

[GJgo]

I noticed that. I almost bought one... Just not sure if it's a tone I need. Have only heard this head on YouTube.

 

[skoora]

I feel for all the people trying to sell their's for 1400-1500. There's used ones on GC for that much next to the new ones that are less. I taught myself a long time ago that something expensive discounted is still expensive if you didn't really need/want it. I'm no longer impulsive like that.

 

[rstites]

I wonder if the market is saturated. I owned/played several of the originals and while they're nice, they're pretty niche IMO. The amp doesn't work as a channel switcher (or very limited one), and it's tone is unique. It definitely has its own thing going compared to other Marshalls.

I just wonder if the reissues have filled the niche already and so now the left-overs are being blown out at lower prices. I wouldn't mind another if the price was right, but I'd want a good 2203 first.

 

[GJgo]

So if you were spending $1300 on a new Jubilee reissue (or hell $1050 with a coupon), or the same money on a 1980s 2203 in who knows condition, you'd still go 2203?

 

[Rick Lee]

Im waiting for the kid on CL that will be selling his for $600 bucks about a year from now when his mom can't take it anymore ...

Ditto. I so don't need this amp, but really want one. If they come down to $600 used, I'l make room for it.

 

[Racerxrated]

I wonder if the market is saturated. I owned/played several of the originals and while they're nice, they're pretty niche IMO. The amp doesn't work as a channel switcher (or very limited one), and it's tone is unique. It definitely has its own thing going compared to other Marshalls.

I just wonder if the reissues have filled the niche already and so now the left-overs are being blown out at lower prices. I wouldn't mind another if the price was right, but I'd want a good 2203 first.

They absolutely work as a channel switcher, and have a better clean than many amps..Splawns for one. All you have to do is keep the rhythm clip pushed in, and you have a decent clean channel. Just match your output master with the lead master and you have a 2 channel amp. Easy. With a boost or 2 it is my favorite Marshall, including any modded or stock. Yes I'm biased lol. The reissues are great amps, I own a 1990 2555 now but had a 2555x a few months back. The loop is as good as any out there, as good as the Friedman as I also recently had a BE100. And the really cool thing is you can run ANY octal power tube in it, and it has external bias pts to make it easy to rebias. I had KT88s on one side and EL34s on the other. I do prefer the original 2555 a bit more because of the vintage transformers... But the reissue is a fantastic amp.

 

[rstites]

So if you were spending $1300 on a new Jubilee reissue (or hell $1050 with a coupon), or the same money on a 1980s 2203 in who knows condition, you'd still go 2203?

It's a tough call. I really want a JMP 2203, but I'll freely admit that's mostly due to nostalgia. A JMP 2203 through the matched 4x12 was my main rig for years. I sold the 2203 and have wanted to get it back for years.....not willing to pay going rates for a 2203 in general. At the time, I definitely choose the 2203 over the 2555 I owned......and the 1959 I owned.

Personally, I wouldn't spend the money on either as I haven't purchased either, so I dunno.

 

[rstites]

They absolutely work as a channel switcher, and have a better clean than many amps..Splawns for one. All you have to do is keep the rhythm clip pushed in, and you have a decent clean channel. Just match your output master with the lead master and you have a 2 channel amp. Easy. With a boost or 2 it is my favorite Marshall, including any modded or stock. Yes I'm biased lol. The reissues are great amps, I own a 1990 2555 now but had a 2555x a few months back. The loop is as good as any out there, as good as the Friedman as I also recently had a BE100. And the really cool thing is you can run ANY octal power tube in it, and it has external bias pts to make it easy to rebias. I had KT88s on one side and EL34s on the other. I do prefer the original 2555 a bit more because of the vintage transformers... But the reissue is a fantastic amp.

OK, it's been 20+ years since I had mine. I recall that the input volume was shared with the clean and gain channel. The gain channel had its own control but the clean/preamp gain still affected it. The master volume was an overall master. This meant that the interaction of the input gain and the lead gain interact such that you have only one level of lead gain that works volume-wise with the clean sound. Yes, it could work as a live channel switcher, but it was very limited. Is that completely wrong or am I remember correctly?

I recall the clean being perfectly sounding. I do appreciate modern amps that make biasing easy. That's a nice improvement to having to pull the chassis for adjusting bias.

 

[Racerxrated]

They absolutely work as a channel switcher, and have a better clean than many amps..Splawns for one. All you have to do is keep the rhythm clip pushed in, and you have a decent clean channel. Just match your output master with the lead master and you have a 2 channel amp. Easy. With a boost or 2 it is my favorite Marshall, including any modded or stock. Yes I'm biased lol. The reissues are great amps, I own a 1990 2555 now but had a 2555x a few months back. The loop is as good as any out there, as good as the Friedman as I also recently had a BE100. And the really cool thing is you can run ANY octal power tube in it, and it has external bias pts to make it easy to rebias. I had KT88s on one side and EL34s on the other. I do prefer the original 2555 a bit more because of the vintage transformers... But the reissue is a fantastic amp.

{OK, it's been 20+ years since I had mine. I recall that the input volume was shared with the clean and gain channel. The gain channel had its own control but the clean/preamp gain still affected it. The master volume was an overall master. This meant that the interaction of the input gain and the lead gain interact such that you have only one level of lead gain that works volume-wise with the clean sound. Yes, it could work as a live channel switcher, but it was very limited. Is that completely wrong or am I remember correctly?}


It has an output master, a lead master, and a gain that can be pulled to engage LED clipping. I have my gain on 10 and only if I pull the gain knob out to engage the LED clipping do I encounter dirt on the clean channel, unless my output master is up high enough to push the power tubes to distort. So you can use it as a clean/lead 2 channel amp, or a dirty rhythm/lead 2 channel amp.

 

[GJgo]

So I have a friend that runs a sound company, he does the PA for concert events. We've been talking about using me & my gear on occasion to do guitar backline at shows he's working. I don't own a Marshall and of course that's a staple for this kind of thing... He says he gets the most asks for a JCM 900, but they'd usually take an 800 or 2000. I thought that was interesting. I was considering picking up this SJ since it's effectively $1050 right now w/ a coupon, but it doesn't make any sense unless I can make some money with it. I know it's effectively a tweaked 800 but a lot of guys might not..?

 

[napalmdeath]

I didn't like the 25 watt I bought, and returned it. Bottom end was loose, and nothing changed it, (boost, EQ, etc).

 

[Racerxrated]

So I have a friend that runs a sound company, he does the PA for concert events. We've been talking about using me & my gear on occasion to do guitar backline at shows he's working. I don't own a Marshall and of course that's a staple for this kind of thing... He says he gets the most asks for a JCM 900, but they'd usually take an 800 or 2000. I thought that was interesting. I was considering picking up this SJ since it's effectively $1050 right now w/ a coupon, but it doesn't make any sense unless I can make some money with it. I know it's effectively a tweaked 800 but a lot of guys might not..?

It is similar to an 800 but the EQ is way more interactive, a simple adjustment really changes things unlike most 800s. You do need a boost to tighten it up, but my experience with the new 2555x and vintage versions was that a single eq pedal or TS would tighten up the low end, unlike what Napalm said above. But I haven't tried the new 25w versions, just the 2555x and many vintage versions. Just got done playing my 1990 and the low end was tight as a frogs ass. Bass on 5, double boosted. OD1X and an EQ pedal in front. It is a smoother sound than a 2203 but still raw and organic.

 

[Rick Lee]

Are they still making these SJ RIs, or were they a special run? If they're slashing the prices on amps they're still producing, that's nuts. They'll really be $600 used on CL in anyear from now.

 

[rottingcorpse]

I'd love to get one and send it to Mike Fortin for a brutal mod of some kind...just for grins.

 

[Mattfig]

I have one here in my studio right now....I've done profiled it and stolen its soul....

In terms of a great amp, this is....It's that Slash tone everyone talks about without any noise or hiss....It's pretty great I must say....Wish it were mine....

 

[rstites]

It has an output master, a lead master, and a gain that can be pulled to engage LED clipping. I have my gain on 10 and only if I pull the gain knob out to engage the LED clipping do I encounter dirt on the clean channel, unless my output master is up high enough to push the power tubes to distort. So you can use it as a clean/lead 2 channel amp, or a dirty rhythm/lead 2 channel amp.

Right. What it lacked that I needed was separate masters for the two channels. The gain feeds both the clean and distortion. With a shared master volume, there's only one lead master level that'll balance.....but both that and the input affect the lead tone. Do you see what I'm getting at. If you want the one and only combination that will balance, the it's fine.....and that's not a bad combination. It's a lot like trying to balance the Mesa .22's before they added the separate lead master on it.

Anyhow, like I said, it's been years. I'd love to try one out, but I don't know who's the local Marshall dealer! Our local GC is the only store of any size. They have Fenders, lots of Egnaters, and Friednmans......and lots of used, but that's it. I used to try to go for a pure clean and a lead, and only learned later to go for heavy rhythm and roll the volume off, so maybe I've changed to where I'd get it to work too! There are several small places around that I picture having entry-level stuff, but I should go check them out. Maybe my memory is wrong.

Both dirty sections on this amp are diode clipping, like the 2210's diode clipping. I recall the horror of many, back before schematics were so ubiquitous and reading them was a bit less common, being horrified upon learning that fact!