Cabinet for EVH 5150 III Stealth 100W

[The~Kid]

For example right one could say "what's the big deal it's only 20 watts less than 100 watts."


Well okay who here would say it's smart to use say a 6l6 instead of a el34 when the amp isn't made for it " what's the big deal they both fit."


Or say what about using 12 Volts DC vs 9 volts DC on a pedal made for 9 volts DC. "Whats the big deal it's 3 Volts more."


Again anyone can do do whatever they want and are comfortable with their rig just be aware of the risk.


And yeah when you don't follow basics/fundamentals you statistically and analytically are running a higher risk, probability and likelihood of risking damage to ones gear/rig IME and IMO. Its just best to follow fundamentals/basics and common sense and be safe than sorry IMO/IME

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

We were just talking about people that repeat old forum nonsense without any actual knowledge about it...EVH did it on purpose because he liked the rating to be close because it sounded better to him. It wont hurt the amp, worst case it blows a speaker, but even a blown speaker has a load, so tranny fine.

It wasnt a mistake and it isnt dangerous. Touching your dick to the tranny is dangerous whether in an amp or on the street. Playing into an evh cab with a similar rating is not going to give you an std

 

[The~Kid]

We were just talking about people that repeat old forum nonsense without any actual knowledge about it...EVH did it on purpose because he liked the rating to be close because it sounded better to him. It wont hurt the amp, worst case it blows a speaker, but even a blown speaker has a load, so tranny fine.

It wasnt a mistake and it isnt dangerous. Touching your dick to the tranny is dangerous whether in an amp or on the street. Playing into an evh cab with a similar rating is not going to give you an std

That is all fine and great but as it stands neither an EVH 412 or a 212 can safely run a 100 Watt EVH Head on their own as they simply dont even have the bare minimum necessary power to do so.

Again you can do it just be aware of the risk

 

[SFW]

Built for the 50 watt heads......


As said not even the previous 212 iterations could safely power a 50 watt head and this is why they move to using 70th Anniversary in the 212 cabs.

The 412s don't have enough power handling to safely run a 100 Watt head..... Again you are free to do so at your own risk. Me I just don't fuck around like that because I don't have 3 thousand dollars to blow but that's me

The EVH 412 cab with the Celestion EVH speaker was designed for the EVH 5150 III 100-watt amplifier. They were released at the same time. A few years before the 50-watt head was release to the market. (2007 for the 100-watt and 2011 for the 50-watt) It was the amp, cab and speaker designed with EVH that he did world tours with. And if you have ever seen his setting, he was brutal with the volume knob. I have owned my EVH 412 for 10 years and ran numerus 100-watt amplifiers through it. Never had an issue with the cab keeping up. If the cab with the stock speakers was an issue, there would have been pitchforks and torches all over the internet about it.

 

[DanTravis62]

If I was only playing at home, I would feel perfectly comfortable running a marshall major into a single Alnico blue, because the wattage handling means exactly jack shit if you aren't pushing the gear to it's limits.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Evh blew speakers in them sometimes running those settings. But even as loud as I play, there is about as much risk of damaging a speaker as there is stubbing your toe on a cotton ball.

But I would like to thank The~Expert for spamming this thread with his TGP forum knowledge

 

[griff10672]

I think 15 ohms but when it comes to that it's within margin relative to a 16 ohm.

Again aside from that when it comes to wattage it's best to use appropriate power handling and not increase risk, likelihood and probability of damaging ones amp and rig because essentially that is what one is doing when they are not using proper power handling cabinets for their amps and this is just basics/fundamentals.


IME and IMO it's just best to be safe than sorry but again everyone and anyone is free to do what they feel comfortable with their rig and as said just simply saying be aware of the risk and be aware of what your using and how its being used appropriately or not.

I'm not an expert at Ohms Law ...... but the Eddie Backs come in around 12 Ohms for a 16 Ohm speaker ..... that might have something to do with there hasn't been anyone complaining about blowing them up ... not sure .... all I know is ... when I looked up the 100 Watt Stealth manual .... it said to pair it with the EVH 4x12 ..... and if a company that big isn't worried about it .... there's a good reason

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

I'm not an expert at Ohms Law ...... but the Eddie Backs come in around 12 Ohms for a 16 Ohm speaker ..... that might have something to do with there hasn't been anyone complaining about blowing them up ... not sure .... all I know is ... when I looked up the 100 Watt Stealth manual .... it said to pair it with the EVH 4x12 ..... and if a company that big isn't worried about it .... there's a good reason

Hmmm...what you say makes logical sense...but could we consult the Gear Page experts to make sure?

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

This is one complaint that I always hear about forums. There are a bunch of dipshits that repeat false information as if it is fact.

The evh 4x12 was designed for 100 watt amps.
Not for 50 watt amps. The twice the amp wattage shit is tired nonsense that all of us that really play ignore.

I know that some of us play a princeton reverb and think that we wear big boy pants, but here we play big boy amps fucking loud.

If you haven't played an evh 4x12 cab fucking loud with a 100 watt amp, then why did you post twenty times in a thread asking about it like you are an expert?

If we need an expert opinion on sucking dick, we will ask you, bud. Other than that, keep it movin

 

[The~Kid]

I'm not an expert at Ohms Law ...... but the Eddie Backs come in around 12 Ohms for a 16 Ohm speaker ..... that might have something to do with there hasn't been anyone complaining about blowing them up ... not sure .... all I know is ... when I looked up the 100 Watt Stealth manual .... it said to pair it with the EVH 4x12 ..... and if a company that big isn't worried about it .... there's a good reason

Well I'm no "expert" either but I'm pretty sure when you multiply 20 by 4 the number is 80 not 100.....

And given the EVH Speakers are rated at 20 watts basic maths and common says shows a 412 cannot safely power a 100 Watt head....


Again this isn't rocket science and it's basic maths, logic and common sense and I'm sticking to that vs whatever else

 

[The~Kid]

This is one complaint that I always hear about forums. There are a bunch of dipshits that repeat false information as if it is fact.

The evh 4x12 was designed for 100 watt amps.
Not for 50 watt amps. The twice the amp wattage shit is tired nonsense that all of us that really play ignore.

I know that some of us play a princeton reverb and think that we wear big boy pants, but here we play big boy amps fucking loud.

If you haven't played an evh 4x12 cab fucking loud with a 100 watt amp, then why did you post twenty times in a thread asking about it like you are an expert?

If we need an expert opinion on sucking dick, we will ask you, bud. Other than that, keep it movin

Okay nvm that...... Nvm twice the wattage etc etc or anything else.


How about the basics and fundamentals like simply having enough power to properly use an amp to begin with...... Especially when you're playing loud it makes sense to use the bare minimum wattage necessary.

This isn't just conventional wisdom it's just established common sense and basic and fundamentals.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

Okay nvm that...... Nvm twice the wattage etc etc or anything else.


How about the basics and fundamentals like simply having enough power to properly use an amp to begin with...... Especially when you're playing loud it makes sense to use the bare minimum wattage necessary.

This isn't just conventional wisdom it's just established common sense and basic and fundamentals.

I see. Well if Eddy was still alive, you could teach him basic common sense and fundamentals. But since he is dead, just know that he went to the grave being wrong this whole time because you weren't there to teach him.

Fuck. I am still alive. Can you teach me all you know of high gain before I die? I mean, you do play high gain, right?

 

[The~Kid]

I see. Well if Eddy was still alive, you could teach him basic common sense and fundamentals. But since he is dead, just know that he went to the grave being wrong this whole time because you weren't there to teach him.

Fuck. I am still alive. Can you teach me all you know of high gain before I die? I mean, you do play high gain, right?

I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an expert to figure out that when you multiply 20 by 4 you get 80 not 100.....


And 100 watts isn't enough to safely power a 100 watt amp. Again you can but be aware of the risk you are running.




Again I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an "expert" to do basic maths or follow common sense.

 

[griff10672]

I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an expert to figure out that when you multiply 20 by 4 you get 80 not 100.....


And 100 watts isn't enough to safely power a 100 watt amp. Again you can but be aware of the risk you are running.




Again I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an "expert" to do basic maths or follow common sense.

common sense tells me to listen to the manufacturer ....... and unless there's some huge recall ...... then ... yeah ...

and unfortunately .... when Ohms Law is involved .... you need to know your shit ..... it's not just simple math .... that's why I brought up the EVH backs coming in at way under the 16 Ohm rating ....

maybe a speaker expert can weigh in ...... but it doesn't come down to just simple Math .... not IMO

 

[The~Kid]

common sense tells me to listen to the manufacturer ....... and unless there's some huge recall ...... then ... yeah ...

and unfortunately .... when Ohms Law is involved .... you need to know your shit ..... it's not just simple math .... that's why I brought up the EVH backs coming in at way under the 16 Ohm rating ....

maybe a speaker expert can weigh in ...... but it doesn't come down to just simple Math .... not IMO

Well again I'm no "expert" but 80 watts isn't 100 watts and 80 watts isn't enough to safely power a 100 Watt amp.

And again it doesn't take an "expert" to do basic maths or multiply basic numbers to figure this out or understand this.


Anyone can use a basic calculator or just a pencil and paper and do the maths themselves and multiply 4 by 20..... You dont need a TI-84+ Calculator or need to understand Calculus, Physics or even Algebra to do so either

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

@S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑ but nvm any of that and I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an expert to figure out that when you multiply 20 by 4 you get 80 not 100.....


And 100 watts isn't enough to safely power a 100 watt amp. Again you can but I be aware of the risk you are running.




Again I'm no "expert" but it doesn't take an "expert" to do basic math or follow common sense.

I will tell you a secret that isn't really a secret. Cranking a 100 watt amp is how you approach or exceed the 100 watt reality. Boosting it can help this along.

Halfway up the volume knob is what scientists refer to as "loud as fuck" (around 110 dbs). At that volume, it is outputting 50-60 watts.

Evh used to put 100+ watts through the speakers. He did it a lot and sometimes blew a speaker after months/years of abuse.

Almost none of us will ever recreate this scenario more than a few times if that often.

Tell me again about basic math

Try not to get stuck in your spam repeat mode. Try to listen to people that have done it. Don't repeat nonsense because you think you know something. You don't

 

[Floyd Eye]

Dude. Shut the fuck up already. These fucking guys have been playing all this shit loud as fuck since before you were grooving to Boyz 2 Men in grade school. Fuck.

 

[jabps]

The EVH 412 cab with the Celestion EVH speaker was designed for the EVH 5150 III 100-watt amplifier. They were released at the same time. A few years before the 50-watt head was release to the market. (2007 for the 100-watt and 2011 for the 50-watt) It was the amp, cab and speaker designed with EVH that he did world tours with. And if you have ever seen his setting, he was brutal with the volume knob. I have owned my EVH 412 for 10 years and ran numerus 100-watt amplifiers through it. Never had an issue with the cab keeping up. If the cab with the stock speakers was an issue, there would have been pitchforks and torches all over the internet about it.

To the OP, as SFW said you'll be fine with either one of the EVH cabs. And since you are playing at home, you'll be more than fine with the 2x12.

I've run 100 watt heads and 120 watt power amps into GB loaded cabs for years, not to mention 50w and 60w 2x12's from live to rehearsal to recording and not blown one speaker since I started playing.

 

[S̷͖͑m̵͎͂á̵̺s̸͚̈́h̴̬̑]

To the OP, as SFW said you'll be fine with either one of the EVH cabs. And since you are playing at home, you'll be more than fine with the 2x12.

I've run 100 watt heads and 120 watt power in amps into GB loaded cabs for years, not to mention 50w and 60w 2x12's from live to rehearsal to recording and never blown a speaker.

Yes. But do you own a calculator?

 

[MadAsAHatter]

I'm no "expert"

Again I'm no "expert"

I'm just some schmuck

Well again I'm no "expert"

Then shut the fuck up, stay in your lane and go back to recommending a Roland Cube for gigging musicians like a good little retard.