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Hack
Lmao. It is still trying to argue its points though no one engages. It thinks it's people
The~Kid
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And Smash makes me feel less self conscious given his big throbbing lactating man tits
The~Kid
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I think his training brah is on too tight. He forgot my name and can't think straight, he must not have enough air running to his tiny little brain
Smash is in full rage mode
Floyd Eye
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Floyd Eye said:
Did you know running a cab with a lower wattage rating than your amp could blow your amp up ?
I’m just going to leave this here.
Did you know running a cab with a lower wattage rating than your amp could blow your amp up ?
I’m just going to leave this here.
The~Kid
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Smash Mad..... In full meltdown lactating gamma milk from his huge green titties
The~Kid
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Yes yes it's completely safe to run a cab with lower power handling with a higher rated amp as y'all suggest....Floyd Eye said:
Did you know running a cab with a lower wattage rating than your amp could blow your amp up ?
I’m just going to leave this here.
Nvm actual power ratings or maths and science just use magical thinking and follow your heart like these guys......
Nvm me or common sense and logic either. Don't listen to me listen to these "experts"
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Hack
Yeah. Even blown speakers have a load which protects the amp. It is not surprising that it can't understand the simplicity of the situation. You are out 3k if a speaker blows???! I think prices have increased for speakers, but last i checked they were less than $200.Floyd Eye said:
Did you know running a cab with a lower wattage rating than your amp could blow your amp up ?
I’m just going to leave this here.
However, when you work in a pizza kitchen, 200 may seem the same as 3000. Especially when you think math is written "maths"
The~Kid
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Lets move the goal post now......
The worst that could happen is you blow a speaker..... But it's entirely safe given your backwards ass, magical thinking BS and "logic" or whatever the fuck you call this whatever youre trying to explain.... Whats the worst that could happen right your speaker blows up in the middle of a show or gig and practice..... Best case youre at home when it happens have to order more speakers, spend more money, wait for them to come and then solder and wire them, what a load of fun.... Who gives a fuck right and makes complete fucking sense genius.
Nvm whatever other BS and fuckery you risk putting your amp through doing this..... But again as long as you're comfortable with it and you believe whatever fuckery you say here to make an excuse for it and sense for it.... It ain't my rig/gear and well Im not doing that shit to any of my gear or rig..... You can do whatever you want with your rig/gear as far Im concerned.
Talk about BS and shamelessly misleading others with your load of shit and magical thinking but again I'm no "expert" like you and what the fuck do I know right
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The~Kid
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This is straight from Celestions website...... The spec sheets.
Notice no asterisk or other BS made up garbage....... Documented as such these are the wattage these speakers are rated at objectively. Nothing changes that.....
Nvm Internet/Forum Myths or other Magical Thinking nonsense and well BS from "experts" like Smash here..... These are the spec sheets in black and white and the speakers are rated for 20 watts just like the Greenback Heritage versions.
Its impossible for an EVH 412 to be rated at 100 watts with these speakers given simple logic and common sense and yes you can run a 100 watt amp head through it but not safely given basic common sense and logic as said but be aware of the risk if you do.
Can it be survivable if you know what you're doing yes..... Is it safe in either case......
The answer is no.
Notice no asterisk or other BS made up garbage....... Documented as such these are the wattage these speakers are rated at objectively. Nothing changes that.....
Nvm Internet/Forum Myths or other Magical Thinking nonsense and well BS from "experts" like Smash here..... These are the spec sheets in black and white and the speakers are rated for 20 watts just like the Greenback Heritage versions.
Its impossible for an EVH 412 to be rated at 100 watts with these speakers given simple logic and common sense and yes you can run a 100 watt amp head through it but not safely given basic common sense and logic as said but be aware of the risk if you do.
Can it be survivable if you know what you're doing yes..... Is it safe in either case......
The answer is no.
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Hack
Oh Sally. Did you get your feelings hurt? What was it that finally did it? Was it us ignoring you? Was it the fact that I figured out you are a pizza cook?
Look. I will let you in on a little secret. You are grasping at straws to win an argument that you were never truly in. Anyone rational can see how ignorant you are.
Nevermind your poor grammar and spelling or your lack of knowledge that is obvious to anyone. The spam arguments that you make over and over after multiple people have disproven your "forum wisdom" shows your lack of intelligence.
You should look up fallacies of logic. You exhibit each one as desperation takes over.
You aren't really elite when it comes to this trolling game, because you are emotional.
I really just wanted to get under your skin one more time, and you made it so easy.
The~Kid
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Its no secret I'm a Chef and work in Neopolitan Pizza..... I have no shame in that and well glad to have the opportunity to do something I love.
In either case as said not to talk shit on you further or make this more than what it is. As said if you want to do this and know what you're doing it can be survivable but understand in either case it's not safe. I figure you and other guys who know what they are doing won't have a problem or have problems but in general even so dont be surprised if problems develop down the road doing this type of stuff......
For me I rather not expose my gear and rig to the risk. I just rather avoid that altogether but that is me.
If you are aware of this and are comfortable go ahead and no problem with me but to anyone considering this type of stuff just be aware of the risk and be comfortable with that.
As said I've used these cabs, they are great and I would probably get one for my amp and be comfortable but again I have a 50 watt head so it's totally safe to use. I may even check out a 212 as it's 60 watts, so I have nothing against the amps or gear or the cabs they are fucking great and amazing. Just stating common sense here and the risk one takes not using the proper wattage cab and power handling when powering their amps. It matters and well IMO there is nothing wrong with simply being aware of the risk.
The~Kid
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In any case just saying it's best to be aware of the risk because there are risk involved when not using the proper power handling and that is a risk one has to be aware of and comfortable with.
The gear/rig are important and well I believe it's best to take care of it and be aware of any possible damage or risk you may expose it to not just for me, or OP, others here but anyone reading.
Not trying to be a dick to Smash or these other guys really and just saying if you ain't a vet with gear/rig like some of these guys it's best to just use proper power handling and better safe than sorry IME and IMO.
The gear/rig are important and well I believe it's best to take care of it and be aware of any possible damage or risk you may expose it to not just for me, or OP, others here but anyone reading.
Not trying to be a dick to Smash or these other guys really and just saying if you ain't a vet with gear/rig like some of these guys it's best to just use proper power handling and better safe than sorry IME and IMO.
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The~Kid
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I mean essentially this and why some recommend 1.5x more power handling than minimum.
If you don't go past noon one could imagine your fine in the long run but again I figure you're fucking up the transistors and shit or if not putting unwanted stress on them that is unnecessary. But I mean yeah 4 Greenbacks listed at 20 Watts right......
So one could imagine the speakers being pushed hard in a 100 watt cab but in an 80 watt cab..... I mean your really pushing it and I figure EVH maybe used two of these I figure.... Why wouldn't he right and well if he didn't and the speakers blew he's Eddie, dude could just replace them no problem but for your average folk it may not be so easy
Also at 80 watts you're kind of probably pushing them to the brink as there is much less headroom putting your amp under stress and other BS for no reason... So yeah I mean it sounds like a bunch of fun and for the guys comfortable with that risk it's great but again not for me or my gear and rig.
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MadAsAHatter
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I log off for the evening thinking maybe The-Kid would have cooled her jets. But nope. I come back to several more pages of I'm no expert but you should listen definitely to me. And it looks like she's right back at it again bright and early this morning. I wonder how many times she's going to bump this thread with the same incoherent blathering?
BTW, this statement shows how clueless you are. Transformers don't care what a speaker's power rating is, they just need to "see" the proper impedance. Having underpowered speakers won't fuck up a "transistors (transformers) and shit"
Fucking up transistors? Do you mean transformers? No wonder you're so confused on this. We're talking about guitar amps/cabs and you're over there trying to plug into a ham radio.
BTW, this statement shows how clueless you are. Transformers don't care what a speaker's power rating is, they just need to "see" the proper impedance. Having underpowered speakers won't fuck up a "transistors (transformers) and shit"
The~Kid
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So it's 100% safe then according to you then......
NVM that you may be pushing the transformers (friggin autocorrect) harder than you should too given youre not even using proper power handling and again lower headroom too making the amp work harder one could imagine..... Nvm you risk blowing your speakers......
Anyways don't figure it's any good for the amp in any case but again I'm no "expert" like you champ but you do you and use a 20 watt speaker for a 50 watt amp or whatever the fuck
PS. There is a difference between survivable and safe and say what you will but it ain't safe but if you know what you're doing and are comfortable YOLO and what can I say
Floyd Eye
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Imagine thinking you know better than the manufacturer who made the rig when your practical experience is imagine dragons through a Roland cube at a pizza joint for 3 of her friends.
The~Kid
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I wouldn't be surprised if Eddie used 2 412 cabs for said reasons and if he didn't..... Well EVH had no problems probably getting a replacement with a snap of the fingers if anything went wrong.
Nothing wrong with being cautious in either case especially when it comes to big money amps....
Not to disrespect anyone by simply saying to be aware of the risk, wouldn't want to have anyone's rig blow up and shit and I'm not coming from a bad place simply saying to be mindful of the risk and ones gear/rig. I care about my rig and I know others do too
MadAsAHatter
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Hey moron, for the 100th time. You have no clue what you are talking about. Using lower powered speakers does not inherently put extra stress on an amp or it's transformers. Impedance mismatch or running without a load is what can damage them.So it's 100% safe then according to you then......
NVM that you may be pushing the transformers (friggin autocorrect) harder than you should too given youre not even using proper power handling and again lower headroom too making the amp work harder one could imagine..... Nvm you risk blowing your speakers......
Anyways don't figure it's any good for the amp in any case but again I'm no "expert" like you champ but you do you and use a 20 watt speaker for a 50 watt amp or whatever the fuck
PS. There is a difference between survivable and safe and say what you will but it ain't safe but if you know what you're doing and are comfortable YOLO and what can I say
Speakers can be damaged if too much power is pushed into them. No one's going to blow 80 watts of speakers with a 100 watt amp playing at mouse fart bedroom volumes.
Here... AI sums it up so I don't have to type it all out.
The~Kid
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Yeah but if you crank its a gamble.......And who doesn't want to crank it baby
Otherwise if youre comfortable and know what you're doing go for it. Me I'ma play it safe and use the proper wattage and that is what I'm comfortable with especially given Im such a dumbass
griff10672
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ala peanut butter sandwiches ..... seems to be working for everyone thats bought one
you keep missing the point ..... the cab can handle way more than it's clean power rating .... that's why the manufacturer isn't worried .... or dealing with thousands of recalls .....
and who ever said the cab was putting out any power ?? I've built several amps ..... including some 100 watters ...... I kind of get how things work
you refuse to look beyond the logic of 4 x 20 ........ so kind of a moot point to go further with this .... no ??
