DSL100HR. Is it just me?

[CarlF]

What speakers ? Great Leslie West tones .

Thanks! Just the stock Greenbacks that came with the cab.

 

[rockford]

See this is a good example of what works for one player might not work for another.

I've had multiple VHT/Fryette amps and the JVM is not even in the ballpark "to me" when it comes to stiffness. To me the JVM is liquid and forgiving to play, my Ultra Leads, SigX's are not. To me you really need to have your shit together to handle Fryette stuff.

Now when I had my chops together years ago it came down to the JVM and Sig as my main amp, I went with the JVM because ultimately I wanted more Marshall flavor. Fast forward to a couple years ago and bought another SigX and the stiffness to me stood out like a sore thumb vs. the JVM. Love the Sig but let it go because I just don't want to put the time into getting my chops together anymore. Frankly one of the great things about Fryette's stuff is what you put in that's what your going to get., no hiding on those things.

As an aside, I've never liked any version of the DSL's. I tried many times to bond with the 2000's and it just never happened. I've never liked the Jube's either, probably one of my least liked Marshalls. On the flipside, I see/hear guys get unbelievable tones out of them though, just not me. Further note, per Santiago the JVM designer, nothing in that amp was taken from the DSL series. The design basis of the JVM was a (if I remember correctly from his recent interview ) was 800's, modded 800's and the JTM series. Outside amps that were used as reference the OG 5150 and Dual Rect. I think there was another high gainer that was used as reference as well.

I have not tried the JVM, but missed out on a few 50 watt heads at Good prices. Do you like anything about the DSL40 CR ? I see lots of mods for the JVM amps, but next to nothing on the DSL40 CR.

 

[DanTravis62]

I have not tried the JVM, but missed out on a few 50 watt heads at Good prices. Do you like anything about the DSL40 CR ? I see lots of mods for the JVM amps, but next to nothing on the DSL40 CR.

I would only get the 40 if you are on a budget and want to make a project of it. It will need a new speaker if it's the combo.

The JVM is much nicer out of the box, and can get much more diverse high gain sounds.

 

[Music&Chaos]

This amp sounds like shit. Every review online raves about How great this amp is. There's even one guy on YouTube who says he likes it better than his Friedman's and Bogner's. On the Marshall forum they are going on about how this is the greatest modern Marshall even better than the JVM I commented that I found it thin and had a mushy bottom end and I got roasted , called a noob and basically told I don't know what I'm doing. I'm far from a noob I bought my first J CM 800 brand new in 1987 I've had Many nice amps, including old Marshalls and know how to dial them in. Side by side through the same cabs my splawn quick rod destroys this DSL and it's not even close maybe there's something wrong with the particular one I have but the overdrive or distortion has no body. The bass totally flubs out with any type of low notes or Palm mutes . the only way it's usable is with the bass totally off and then the top end is totally unbearable. like I said maybe it's something with this unit but I've also owned a DSL40 and the DSL 20 and found them both unbearable. I did check the bias and changed preamp tubes with no change. Anybody own one?

I have a DSL 40 and find it highly reliant on specific speakers and tubes. Once I got those set - it really slams.

 

[rockford]

I would only get the 40 if you are on a budget and want to make a project of it. It will need a new speaker if it's the combo.

The JVM is much nicer out of the box, and can get much more diverse high gain sounds.

It was affordable, and not a long drive. I did change the speaker from Type V, to Type A. Took a lot of harshness away, When I check bias, one tube was at 24ma , and one at 42ma. As far the project part, i would like to change the negative feedback resistor. I dont know if that would work, it is part of a resonance contol. Have asked over on the Marshall forum, no can or will say.

 

[DanTravis62]

It was affordable, and not a long drive. I did change the speaker from Type V, to Type A. Took a lot of harshness away, When I check bias, one tube was at 24ma , and one at 42ma. As far the project part, i would like to change the negative feedback resistor. I dont know if that would work, it is part of a resonance contol. Have asked over on the Marshall forum, no can or will say.

I would post in the tech corner subforum brother - there are a ton of guys that will help you out there.

I guess I don't need to tell you, if the tube bias is off by that much, there's some stuff going on and be careful until you can get it sorted

 

[Rottweiler]

I have a DSL 40 and find it highly reliant on specific speakers and tubes. Once I got those set - it really slams.

Hey M&C, what speakers did you settle on for the DSL40?

 

[Music&Chaos]

Hey M&C, what speakers did you settle on for the DSL40?

Hard to say because I do not get to rip it at full volume as much for true testing but overall - I have been happpy with my swap from the stock 12" in the combo to a Fane M65. Really makes for some fun metal tones. I also swapped out a lot of the original tubes in it for NOS but found a super quiet stock one and put it in V1. I would have to do further testing before making a true recommendation overall but it is definitely an upgrade over the stock no matter what.

 

[Techdeth]

Hey M&C, what speakers did you settle on for the DSL40?

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