WOW... I just got banned from HCAF!!

[JTyson]

your avatar makes me covet.

Hhmmm...uh, yep, thats how I ended up with all that crap... is that wrong?

 

[jerrydyer]

well its a sickness, prob not a sin.

 

[gbsmusic]

Can I get a PRAISE JESUS????????

 

[just42dave]

Praise BOGNER!!!! I mean JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Gainzilla]

don't worry man, this place is infested with idiot conservative Christians, thread made me laugh

Normally I dont condone laughing at the expense of the mentally challenged but when it comes to you, I have no problems making an exception Ive seen dumb but you take the prize, keep up the good work!!

 

[bunghole]

yeah this place ain't full of conservative christians. its got its share of right wing lunatics, not bible thumpers though!

 

[just42dave]

don't worry man, this place is infested with idiot conservative Christians, thread made me laugh

Normally I dont condone laughing at the expense of the mentally challenged but when it comes to you, I have no problems making an exception Ive seen dumb but you take the prize, keep up the good work!!

Thanx man I thought maybe that was a stab at us but didnt know,,,kinda gave him the benifiet of the doubt

 

[glpg80]

don't worry man, this place is infested with idiot conservative Christians, thread made me laugh

Normally I dont condone laughing at the expense of the mentally challenged but when it comes to you, I have no problems making an exception Ive seen dumb but you take the prize, keep up the good work!!

ouch, talk about tuck-the-tale-syndrome after that one.

i only have one religion. i worship metal that kicks ass and leaves me head banging each and every day, even sunday!

i love getting looks from others as i drive by with divine heresy cranked wide open in my truck

 

[just42dave]

I remember when the Original Deicide album came out
Wow talk abot looks,,Then Napalm Death and Cannible Corpse YEEEEHAAAWWWWWW

 

[glpg80]

I remember when the Original Deicide album came out
Wow talk abot looks,,Then Napalm Death and Cannible Corpse YEEEEHAAAWWWWWW

thats hilarious. i'd love to hear some of the tunes some of the other metal heads here on the forum jam in their vehicles wide open on the roads.

i had one guy next to me at a red light thumbing me to turn it back up with his thumb and devilhorns. it was hilarious. i always turn it down for respect to others, but that was just fucking awsome

 

[JackBootedThug]

i think it's funny how atheists seem to get all worked to the point of being hostile for no reason. whatever, it's all good

 

[gbsmusic]

Praise BOGNER!!!! I mean JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Amen to that brother!!

 

[jerrydyer]

hey Jack,

yeah, just more proof. Makes me even more secure.

 

[grunge782]

I'm not really sure I understand this "You can be a good Christian, but don't force it on other people". If your world view is that people without your religion are going to be in eternal pain and anguish (at least 60 percent of the world) after about 100 years of life, don't you have a responsibility as a "moral" person to convince them to convert to your religion? It seems hypocritical.

 

[ejecta]

I'm not really sure I understand this "You can be a good Christian, but don't force it on other people". If your world view is that people without your religion are going to be in eternal pain and anguish (at least 60 percent of the world) after about 100 years of life, don't you have a responsibility as a "moral" person to convince them to convert to your religion? It seems hypocritical.

You don't understand the difference between telling someone what you believe and forcing your beliefs on them?

 

[grunge782]

I'm not really sure I understand this "You can be a good Christian, but don't force it on other people". If your world view is that people without your religion are going to be in eternal pain and anguish (at least 60 percent of the world) after about 100 years of life, don't you have a responsibility as a "moral" person to convince them to convert to your religion? It seems hypocritical.

You don't understand the difference between telling someone what you believe and forcing your beliefs on them?

1. What do you consider "force"? That is where it really starts to break down for me. Just because it isn't a physical confrontation, doesn't mean it becomes a forced action. There are some proposed rhetorical theories that words are themselves actions. For instance, if someone decides they want to leave the church, their family becomes disappointed or far from their offspring. The family sees them as pulling away from a righteous path, and the offspring feels like he/she is losing trust and acceptance from their family. This can GREATLY alter someone's life, into a perceived physical action, such as the terrible act of suicide if the isolation and distance becomes extreme enough. How is the Christian family supposed to support someone like that? It's ok, we still love you if you want to continue your path into straying from God and live eternity in Hell with the one who is considered the source of all problems in this world?

2. Conversely, if somebody is going to burn in hell for the rest of eternity, is it then not worth putting it into physical action for this short life so that they can have eternal happiness and know the real "truth" of the world? What is the moral obligation of the believers then?

Then you get into the argument of free will, which in my opinion is another paradox with an all knowing, timeless creator.

 

[grunge782]

yeah it sucks that the world only notice the fanatics like making those kids where those dumb shirts. I know the Bible it does not say God hates homosexuals. It says he hates that they are doing what they do. He hates the sin not the sinner. He came here for the dopes like me not the perfect people. (so called perfect people) Real Christians are just everyday joe shmoes like me who beleive the Bible. Thoes fanatics push people away. sad.

But it does say that man-love is a sin, where as man on woman is not. That says something. How would you like it if every time you were with your wife/girlfriend it was considered a sin?

 

[jerrydyer]

I dont understand the question. Im not trying to be difficult but a woman is a woman and a man is a man. Its simple really Creation AND evolution MOCK homosexuality so ? ? Im sorry I dont understand the question

 

[marvcus]

I'm not really sure I understand this "You can be a good Christian, but don't force it on other people". If your world view is that people without your religion are going to be in eternal pain and anguish (at least 60 percent of the world) after about 100 years of life, don't you have a responsibility as a "moral" person to convince them to convert to your religion? It seems hypocritical.

You don't understand the difference between telling someone what you believe and forcing your beliefs on them?

1. What do you consider "force"? That is where it really starts to break down for me. Just because it isn't a physical confrontation, doesn't mean it becomes a forced action. There are some proposed rhetorical theories that words are themselves actions. For instance, if someone decides they want to leave the church, their family becomes disappointed or far from their offspring. The family sees them as pulling away from a righteous path, and the offspring feels like he/she is losing trust and acceptance from their family. This can GREATLY alter someone's life, into a perceived physical action, such as the terrible act of suicide if the isolation and distance becomes extreme enough. How is the Christian family supposed to support someone like that? It's ok, we still love you if you want to continue your path into straying from God and live eternity in Hell with the one who is considered the source of all problems in this world?

Read the New Testament. What you describe happens all over the place. Many of Paul's letters include some forms of rebuke for straying too far from the truth. And this was just a few decades after Jesus. All you can do is love people and pray that they will turn toward the narrow path. You are right in that nobody can, effectively, force religion on another. The greatest commandment Jesus gave was to love your neighbor as yourself.

I take that as meaning anyone; straight, gay, black, white, green, jazz, country... . Hate the sin, love the sinner.

The Bible also says that before you take the speck of wood out of your brother's eye to take the plank out of yours first, i.e., we have no right to judge each other. Only God can judge. I think this gets lost in the mix with some people.

Some of us Christians aren't the crazy hateful, spiteful bunch so many think we are.

 

[grunge782]

I dont understand the question. Im not trying to be difficult but a woman is a woman and a man is a man. Its simple really Creation AND evolution MOCK homosexuality so ? ? Im sorry I dont understand the question

What I am saying is that by the standards of the previous statement you made, we are all sinners and thus in the same boat as homosexuals on a certain level. However, the Bible states that homosexuality is considered a sin where as a man being with a woman is not so there is an stated bias of "evil" against their sexual desires. By your most recent statement you seem to be under the impression that this is a natural and comfortable perception of God's judgement on human sexuality, and homosexuals are simply blocking the road of creation and evolution (*even though there are some animals that are homosexual as well besides homo sapiens).

*https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_and_Silo